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Quoting dobrzpe:
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yea, but you are failing to realize: i bet people (MYSELF INCLUDED) would rather have info in the profile than NO INFO WHATSOEVER. i, too, have been using it since it was Invocative. i've submitted several profiles back in the day and they were rejected. so i said to myself, fine - i won't help out. now, for the last 18+ years, if it's not in the database, i have to go through the pain of putting in BASIC info and cover image myself. (no cast info, which REALLY sucks...)
i'd just be nice to have the info there, THEN if someone sees a mistake, and wants to fix it - GO FOR IT!
pulling from IMDB or even TMDB would be better than NOTHING.
But pulling IMDb info is illegal - that material is protected by copyright. Pulling their data (which is easily checked because of the mistakes) will get this site shut down. | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 3955 |  | Quoting mediadogg:
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That being said, assuming the result of a submission is absolutely accurate, and if the corresponding IMDB entry is also accurate, then how can one tell how the entries were generated? IMDB cannot "own" the raw data, only the its digital encapsulation and presentation. That's my opinion, so as long as the process of transferring the data from all sources comes from diligent study and interpretation of publicly presented information, it seems to me to be perfectly legal.
I think that's the issue, though: people have used data that contains IMDb mistakes.
I have never found an IMDb entry which matches the on screen credits 100%. I'm aware that there must be many such examples that I've simply not seen, but I've yet to come across one of them. | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 3955 | | It wouldn't be free to pull information from IMDb. Quite the reverse, in fact, and I've long suspected that some of the silence here has been caused by users pulling info from the IMDb in the first place.
I submit a lot of full casts to the database. Sometimes I check the listings on the IMDb in case I've misread a credit. I have yet to find a single IMDb entry that doesn't contain a mistake. | Posted: Topic Replies: 25, Topic Views: 3955 | | Quoting GSyren:
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If you make sure that "Automatically lock all changed items" is checked at the bottom of the Edit window, your data should be safe.
Yes, I learned this the hard way too. | Posted: Topic Replies: 6, Topic Views: 5084 | | Quoting HellRazor:
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I have an old silent movie on BR that has NO onscreen cast/crew credits (although there ARE known credits on IMDB and elsewhere). Should I contribute this profile without any cast/crew credits?
When I submit such profiles I'll take what I can from the credits, then use the AFI and BFI sites as my primary sources, checking against Wikipedia and IMDb where necessary. I'd then detail in my notes what I've done.
I contribute quite a few cast and crew profiles. My eyesight isn't what it once was, so I sometimes find myself double-checking the IMDb for a character name if the credits are too small to clearly read. I can honestly say I have never come across an IMDb profile without at least one mistake. I really don't understand why people hold it in such reverence - it's incredibly unreliable when it comes to exact details. | Posted: Topic Replies: 10, Topic Views: 11115 | | Quoting Nexus the Sixth:
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Apparently i am on the ignore list since ive got pending contributions from 5 May and onwards.
You're not alone.
I have one from the fifth awaiting approval (four 'yes' votes).
A chunk for the next week have been approved and released.
Four full cast and crew entries submitted a few days later have been approved, one hasn't (from the 9th), despite 'yes' votes.
A few more over the next few days have been approved, then there's another one from the tenth still waiting approval.
A further five full cast and crew updates have been released, then we have six new-to-database entries on the 18th which have yet to be approved.
Then three more full cast and crew updates for blank profiles that have been released, followed by one (26th) that hasn't.
Then one with full cast and crew that has been approved (four days after submission), followed by several more that haven't.
There's no logic. Some of the approved ones have no votes, some of the unapproved ones have 'yes' votes. Some of the new entries have been released, some of them haven't.
I take all my submissions directly from the credits themselves. Occasionally I'll check a spelling or an actor's name, and in doing so I always cross reference IMDb, Wikipedia, bfi database and afi database to make sure I'm not making a mistake. I'm a reliable contributor, and most of my contributions are full casts and crew for entries that don't have them.
I just don't understand why some are approved faster than others. | Posted: Topic Replies: 34, Topic Views: 15465 | | | Personally I'd say UK/USA | Posted: Topic Replies: 13, Topic Views: 13272 | |
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