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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 15 |
| | Posted: | | | | I've the problem that this feature isn't listed on the contribution screen, even its activated in the local profile.
The affected profile has the EAN 4-895067-308857.
Has anyone an idea how to solve the problem? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | no you can't this is not a region 1 NTSC but region 3 NTSC Mutt Boy [HK Version]Quote:
COMPATIBILITY WARNING - PLEASE READ! We do not accept returns for incompatibility!
This REGION 3 NTSC FORMAT DVD will not work with normal USA equipment. If you don't know about PAL/NTSC formats or Region Coding, or do not know if your DVD player is compatible with this DVD, please CLICK HERE! | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Crank:
My understanding is that CC is a Region 1 thing. I haven't researched it personally, but from what I have seen here that seems to be the case. Closed Captioning is something specific that was created in the US some 30 years ago by the Closed Captioning Institute in Los Angeles, CA. Originally it took a special decoder box, not unlike a cable box to read encoded signal, these days it can be done some circuitry in a TV or some coding in a computer program but the premise is the same and CC is very different from subtitles or the current trend of English SDH.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | First of all, is there really a Closed Caption on the DVD? If yes, how did you detect it? Because, as pointed out by Skip, the whole CC-Thing is a us-specific thing that has nothing to do with the subtitle functionality that DVD offers. I would be rather surprise to see that on a Hong Kong DVD release. See Closed Caption at the Wikipedia. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 15 |
| | Posted: | | | | I know that extra hardware is needed to watch them - but thats not the problem.
Theres a CC-Logo on the backcover and the official site (http://www.hkwinson.com/newweb/dvddetaileng.asp?film_id=611) lists "Hidden Caption: Yes".
For an other HK-DVD (4-895024-903903) it was posible to add the "Closed Captioned"-feature. So this feature doen't seem to be locked to Region1-DVDs only. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Closed Captioned thick box is under features and when marked and contributed the Invelos noticed:
There were no changes detected in the contribution from the latest accepted profile.
when you change to region 1 yoiu can contribute CC
for region 3 this is not supported as it seems. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | 4-895024-903903 Pom Pom is in the online as region 0 when switched to region 3 the CC disappears:  | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Frank:
It is not unusual for covers to wrong. Try something like PowerDVD which will read the CC encoding if it is present through your computer.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah, I agree. Just because the cover has a "CC" logo does not always mean it's actually on the disc. I have at least two Anchor Bay R1 discs that have the logo clear as day on the covers, but it's just not present on the discs. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 413 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not that it affects me anyhow, but I was wondering: why they still use CC? What's the benefit when compared with standard subtitling feature? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 15 |
| | Posted: | | | | So its still a problem with the Region 3 - would have guessed its a location related thing.
I just look for a logo because I couldn't find a program yet to verify the "Closed Caption".
Also in PowerDVD I couldn't find any information about it is on the disc (or not).
@Katatonia: How did you check the CC? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bcrank: Quote:
@Katatonia: How did you check the CC? If you are using PowerDVD, just play the disc and then right-click your mouse. A vertical menu will show up and about halfway down there is a "Closed Captioning" choice which will either show in black type if the disc has CC, or show in shaded gray type if the disc doesn't have CC. You can also select that choice to toggle CC on and off within PowerDVD while watching the film... It is best to actually toggle CC on manually and play the movie for a minute because some discs can give a false reading in PowerDVD (especially recent Warner discs do this, blank no actual CC-text information). I also double check those on my Sony TV which has CC-decoding. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,029 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
It is best to actually toggle CC on manually and play the movie for a minute because some discs can give a false reading in PowerDVD (especially recent Warner discs do this, blank no actual CC-text information). I also double check those on my Sony TV which has CC-decoding. I don't know about the latest version of PowerDVD, but earlier versions of PowerDVD and all versions of WinDVD have problems displaying CC that are not encoded in a certain way (doubled control chars, etc.). In such cases, you can turn on the CC, but they are not displayed (or sometimes only distorted), even if they are present. Please note that this is different from cases where the CC flag is erroneously set in the IFO, but no actual CC data are present in the VOB file. So double-checking with a hardware player and TV is recommended. Alternatively, you can examine the VOB files with VobEdit or a Hex Editor to look for the embedded CC sequences. | | | | Matthias | | | | Last edited: by goodguy |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bcrank: Quote:
Theres a CC-Logo on the backcover and the official site (http://www.hkwinson.com/newweb/dvddetaileng.asp?film_id=611) lists "Hidden Caption: Yes". You can't go by the cover. They are often wrong. Use a program like PowerDVD to see if the disc does actually have closed captions. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Jykke: Quote:
Not that it affects me anyhow, but I was wondering: why they still use CC? What's the benefit when compared with standard subtitling feature? I think that the difference between subtitles and the close caption is that the CC describe the sound too. By exemple : [phone ring], [wind blowing], [bell ringing], ... It's more usefull for the deaf people |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
I think that the difference between subtitles and the close caption is that the CC describe the sound too. By exemple : [phone ring], [wind blowing], [bell ringing], ...
It's more usefull for the deaf people That's a little accurate, but SDH and even certain studio's subtitle "styles" often portray that also. Closed Captioning seems to have a distinct white typewriter-ish font to it and is often enclosed in black blocks on TV's...though in PowerDVD there are no visible black blocks. A lot of TV programming is closed captioned. If you have a TV that decodes them (or a CC converter box) then you can see it scroll what is being said on the screen. They often broadcast closed captioning for live programming also...with typo errors as expected. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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