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New to Blu ray -- a few things I'm not sure of....
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantandrewmk
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Hi folks.....

I have done a bit of googling and couldn't find clarification so I don't think this has been asked before (apologies if I'm wrong).

I've now a got a BD player on order (DMP-BD50 -- yippeeee), and will have a look on Play.com a little later to order my first discs.

Having made many mistakes in the past on DVD orders, having bought 4:3 transfers of widescreen films or non-anamorphic (letterboxed) copies are there any similar 'gottchas' for Blu-ray?

So, are all Bluray discs widescreen (for widescreen source material)?  Are they all encoded in 1080p?  Will all films be encoded non-interlaced and 24fps?  Does anamorphics exist in the the Bluray world?  Sorry, lots of questions --- just want my first discs to be good ones   

Thanks guys...

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Hi

I've now a got a BD player on order (DMP-BD50 -- yippeeee), and will have a look on Play.com a little later to order my first discs.



have a look at this thread where I list some good deals on blu ray.

Also have a look at Amazon.com - but you will need to check that any American blu rays are multi region and will play on region B machines (uk)
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Hi folks.....

I have done a bit of googling and couldn't find clarification so I don't think this has been asked before (apologies if I'm wrong).

I've now a got a BD player on order (DMP-BD50 -- yippeeee), and will have a look on Play.com a little later to order my first discs.

Having made many mistakes in the past on DVD orders, having bought 4:3 transfers of widescreen films or non-anamorphic (letterboxed) copies are there any similar 'gottchas' for Blu-ray?

So, are all Bluray discs widescreen (for widescreen source material)?  Are they all encoded in 1080p?  Will all films be encoded non-interlaced and 24fps?  Does anamorphics exist in the the Bluray world?  Sorry, lots of questions --- just want my first discs to be good ones   

Thanks guys...

Andrew


Actually. Most films can be played back in 1080p/24f.. Your TV (if connected via HDMI) selects the right format. (widescreen or whatever). I so far haven't seen a Blu Ray that's not widescreen.. Actually you can't do a lot wrong when bunying a blu ray. . I only got on that I sent back "XXX" .. It was the regular version and the sound was not enhanced.

BTW: BE sure to buy blu rays that either have DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD..

Country Codes: Most titles are codefree. Only fox titles are always coded A if you wanna order in the US..
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Anamorphic doesn't exist on Blu-ray (or HD-DVD). If it's widescreen it will be encoded at 1920x1080, so no stretching ever.

Check http://bluray.liesinc.net/ for if a disc is region free.

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There are already some 16:9 "pan & scan" releases, notably the Swedish release of Rambo. Also the sound options aren't always optimal if you're looking for lossless sound. Sometimes the transfers will differ between the European and American releases etc. (eg. Pan's Labyrinth). As always, read the reviews.
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Yeah. Sometimes you get worse sound in the european Version. Like "WAR". The US Version featured DTS HD Master while the German Version had (for the English Language Track) only DTS HD High Resolution (Still sounded great though)..

Really? There are pan&Scan Releases out on Blu Ray? Man that I can't believe
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Rambo in 1.78:1 (OAR is 1:2.35), thanks to the wonderful people at Noble Entertainment. 

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Rambo in 1.78:1 (OAR is 1:2.35), thanks to the wonderful people at Noble Entertainment. 

I think this is because of the people that cry about the "black bars" and ask why the picture doesn't fill up the entire screen. 
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Thanks for that guys; so apart from checking for a good lossless soundtrack, there's not much to go wrong.

So just for clarification, is it that BD discs are encoded in the source's native framerate (ie 24 for film 50/60 for video) and that the player does any neccessary conversion requred by the display?  If not, and knowing my player and TV can do 24fps,  how will I know if a any particular film is encoded at 24 fps or not ? 

Sorry for continuing to sound a bit thick 

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Thanks for that guys; so apart from checking for a good lossless soundtrack, there's not much to go wrong.

So just for clarification, is it that BD discs are encoded in the source's native framerate (ie 24 for film 50/60 for video) and that the player does any neccessary conversion requred by the display?  If not, and knowing my player and TV can do 24fps,  how will I know if a any particular film is encoded at 24 fps or not ? 

Sorry for continuing to sound a bit thick 

Andrew


I am not sure. I think most blu rays are encoded 1080p/30 and the player does the necessary conversion to 24f
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Thanks for that guys; so apart from checking for a good lossless soundtrack, there's not much to go wrong.

So just for clarification, is it that BD discs are encoded in the source's native framerate (ie 24 for film 50/60 for video) and that the player does any neccessary conversion requred by the display?  If not, and knowing my player and TV can do 24fps,  how will I know if a any particular film is encoded at 24 fps or not ? 

Sorry for continuing to sound a bit thick 

Andrew


I am not sure. I think most blu rays are encoded 1080p/30 and the player does the necessary conversion to 24f

Well, generally, most Hollywood movies are 24fps.  Since it's just a transfer, it's the same way on the BD.  TV shows are generally 50/60fps depending on the country.
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TV shows are generally 50/60fps depending on the country.

You're confusing framerate with frequency. PAL television runs at 25fps, NTSC at 30fps.
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TV shows are generally 50/60fps depending on the country.

You're confusing framerate with frequency. PAL television runs at 25fps, NTSC at 30fps.

I'm not confusing frequency with frame per second.  I just thought TV shows were 50/60fps depending on country.
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Well I should have paid more heed to stephan.klose's post above.  Blu-ray player was received and I ordered 5 Blu-ray discs from Amazon.co.uk.

Hmmm, 4 don't have any HD soundtracks, just plain old Dolby Digital --- not even DTS    Only one (thank god for Close Encounters) had HD sound.  What a bummer.  I kinda assumed most modern films would have a HD sountrack to go along with the HD picture. 

Amazon don't list these details - I will need to be more careful in future.

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Well I should have paid more heed to stephan.klose's post above.  Blu-ray player was received and I ordered 5 Blu-ray discs from Amazon.co.uk.

Hmmm, 4 don't have any HD soundtracks, just plain old Dolby Digital --- not even DTS    Only one (thank god for Close Encounters) had HD sound.  What a bummer.  I kinda assumed most modern films would have a HD sountrack to go along with the HD picture. 

Amazon don't list these details - I will need to be more careful in future.

Andrew


Best you check this site always before buying a blu ray

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Usually they carry over the english soundtrack from the US Version. But that's also not always guaranteed. Best you order everything, except for Fox of course in the states..
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I forgot to ask: In what language are you watching your movies? Because lossless sound is mostly provided only in english. The newer movies also provide it in the native langues
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