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Made for TV Movies or TV Specials, Rating equals what?
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Are we to use the Film or Television rating for made for TV Movies or TV Specials/ Documentaries?

For example: The Dirty Dozen: The Deadly Mission has War and Television genres, but the Rating System is Film.

I've seen both Film or Television rating used.
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We are supposed to use the rating that is printed on the box, no matter which system.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Perhaps I didn't make it clear.

Not the Rating itself, but do we pick "Rating System Film or Television" for made for TV Movies or TV Specials/ Documentaries?

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Do you mean the The Dirty Dozen: The Deadly Mission from The Dirty Dozen Double Feature (027616-145475?

It was a TV movie, and the Rating is "Not Rated" on the back cover.

So it would be entered as Rating System: "Television" with the Rating "NR"

I've seen some TV movies with MPAA ratings on the covers/discs though, and have always just seen those entered under Rating System: "Film" — since the "Television" Rating System in the program doesn't handle MPAA ratings.
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Yeah, that's one I used as an example.

Basically if a Made for TV Movie is NR we use the Television system. Otherwise, it's film.

What about TV Specials or documentaries?
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Documentaries can be made either for TV or for the cinema, so I presume these would have to be judged on a case-by-case basis.
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No matter what it is... if it originally aired on TV (and don't have an MPAA rating) we use the Television system along with NR.
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What about TV Specials or documentaries?


If they were originally a TV Movie or TV Special/Documentary, I've always just seen them entered under "Television" as the Rating system.

For instance, PBS "NOVA" documentary special DVD's would get entered under Television. Or a TV documentary series like "The World at War" (1974) would be entered under Television also.
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A few more examples.

Hercules: The Legendary Journeys: And the Amazon Women and The Lost Kingdom uses the Film Rating System.
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys: The Xena Trilogy uses the Film Rating System.
After Shock: Earthquake in New York uses the Film Rating System.
Bang Bang You're Dead uses the Film Rating System.
Battlestar Galactica: The Plan uses the Film Rating System.
Behind the Planet of the Apes uses the Film Rating System.
Deadly Invasion: The Killer Bee Nightmare uses the Film Rating System.
Dinosaur Planet uses the Film Rating System.
Fail Safe uses the Film Rating System.
Gulliver's Travels uses the Film Rating System.
The Librarian: Quest for the Spear uses the Film Rating System.
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That just means they never been updated. The Television rating system is still relatively new... sure there is tons still in the database that don't use it yet.
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But how do we know when these are films or television?

It's easy when one sees season in the title, then one knows it's television. But TV Movies require more research to verify it was indeed made for tv or not.

Then there's documentaries. How does one know if a documentary was made for tv or not? Or if it's actually just an episode of a tv series?

And just because a movie was made for tv, how does that disqualify it from being a film? Technically, aren't made for tv movies both?
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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But how do we know when these are films or television?

It's easy when one sees season in the title, then one knows it's television. But TV Movies require more research to verify it was indeed made for tv or not.


Usually easy enough with a simple search... but also by watching... you can usually tell where the breaks for the commercials were and such.

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Then there's documentaries. How does one know if a documentary was made for tv or not? Or if it's actually just an episode of a tv series?
Whether it is a documentary made for tv or an episode of a tv series... the rating system would still be television.

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And just because a movie was made for tv, how does that disqualify it from being a film? Technically, aren't made for tv movies both?


Whether film or not... it still originally aired on television.
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So if I get this correctly the problem applies only to "unrated" features, which have no rating from MPAA and/or TV.

Does it really matter who did not rate the feature?
Unrated is unrated is unrated no matter which rating-agency did not do the rating.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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That is something we been over and over again within multiple threads. There is those of us that feels it is just more accurate to have it listed as Television.
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Heard about stranger things.

One problem with this approach comes to mind though:

Scenario:
- Feature was originally a TV-presentation
- Feature has no TV rating
- For what reason ever the MPAA took a look at the DVD-release though and gave it a rating, which gets printed on the cover.

Which form of "accuracy" would you prefer?
-TV system -> Unrated (after all it originally aired on TV and has no rating in this system)
- Film system -> Rating given by MPAA (because that's what the rules tell us to do)
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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As I stated above... if it has an MPAA rating we always use it to match the rating on the case per Rules.
Pete
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