From the newly updated rules:

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For English titles, capitalize all words except "a", "an", "and", "as", "at", "but", "by", "for", "in", "it", "nor", "of", "on", "or", "the", "to", "up", and "with". Exception: Capitalize any word that is the first, last, or only word in the title.

Since "up" is part of that list, it can no longer be capitalized. Fine. But how does this affect titles like "The Change-Up"? Do we still capitalize the "U" there, or does this new rule means that we should change it to "The Change-up"?

Just wonder.

Why is "up" in the list, but not "down"?
Why "with", but not "without"?

Quoting T!M:

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From the newly updated rules:

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For English titles, capitalize all words except "a", "an", "and", "as", "at", "but", "by", "for", "in", "it", "nor", "of", "on", "or", "the", "to", "up", and "with". Exception: Capitalize any word that is the first, last, or only word in the title.

Since "up" is part of that list, it can no longer be capitalized.

Why would you make such an assumption?


Quoting Flåklypa:

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Just wonder.

Why is "up" in the list, but not "down"?
Why "with", but not "without"?

If you would join the Rules Committee you could read the discussion that arrived at this conclusion.

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Since "up" is part of that list, it can no longer be capitalized.

Why would you make such an assumption?

Ah, so you feel that "Up" in "The Change-up" can be capitalized because it's the last word?

I'm asking why you believe "up" can no longer be capitalized just because it's on that list even though there are exceptions listed.

The only question seems to be whether "change-up" is one or two words.  If it's one word it's "Change-up".  If two then "Change-Up".  I don't believe hyphenated compound words were part of the discussion that resulted in this rules change.

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Quoting Rizor:

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Easier said than done!

Normally it is easy, just sent a PM to Ken or use the support ticket system.

Dont like the new rule

now seeing some submissions to update vs. to Vs

The style guide for English titles says not to capitalize any preposition which is less than five characters. We've got submissions going in for changing "from" to "From" which is totally wrong!

The rule should have said not to capitalize articles, coordinating conjunctions and prepositions less than 5 characters. Using a list is a mistake because some will always be overlooked.

Articles: a, an, the

Coordinating conjunctions: for, and, nor, but, or, yet, so

Prepositions: amid, as, at, atop, by, chez, down, for, from, in, into, near, of, off, on, onto, out, over, past, sans, to, unto, up, upon, via, with

I also think a rule should be that the title is taken as on the cover, unless all letters are uppercase or lowercase.

Take this for example:



Someone just made a contribution yesterday under the new rules to change it from Stranger than Fiction to Stranger Than Fiction