Quoting Alien Redrum:

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I don't quite understand the whole 'kiddie movie' argument against this. Do people not check the DVD case when pulling it for their kids, or do you trust DVD Profiler so much that if it's NR it must be safe.

It has nothing to do with kiddie movies, being irresponsible or being dumber than a computer.

Flip the question around.  The kids are in bed finally and I'm tired of Disney / family crap.  I want a good grown up movie.  So I filter on R or higher.  Unfortunately none of my NR movies show up.  They're all grouped down in the kiddie movies.  So I either miss a big chunk of my collection just trying to find something interesting.  Or I have to look at the NR movies I'm interested in along with the kids stuff, my wife's documentaries, concert videos, accessories, etc.

And to fix this problem all we have to do is let Ken make a small change that will just magically appear in the download.  Those who care can just start putting it to use.  Those who don't care about it either lock their ratings, don't accept the changes as they appear or just accept them if you truly don't care.

It seems to me that one group has a lot to gain while the other group just has a small annoyance at best.

That's also the problem I have with option #1.  Some of my grown up movies will still have the kiddie rating because they don't have the right marketing blurb on the cover.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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I am with you all the way Pete.  All this parental control talk has muddied the waters as this isn't about parental controls.

All the different rating systems used world wide (and as far as I know MPAA beeing the oldest) have only been created for a single reason. And this reason is parental control. For some reason there is a group of adult people (not only here in profiler land) who look at the rating as some quality/category label meant for adults. In their view the higher rating is somehow "better" than the lower rating. The reason for this may be that the industry has a history of crippling some movies in order to get a lower rating which means a broader audience in the theatre. But this effect of seeing the rating as a recommendation for adults has lead to the fact that the industry has been beginning to introduce the label "unrated" as a marketing gimmick. But in the context of ratings this just does not make sense. But since we do get this marketing "rating" anyway for profiler, I'm out of this discussion.

Quoting Mark Harrison:

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Quoting Alien Redrum:

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I don't quite understand the whole 'kiddie movie' argument against this. Do people not check the DVD case when pulling it for their kids, or do you trust DVD Profiler so much that if it's NR it must be safe.

It has nothing to do with kiddie movies, being irresponsible or being dumber than a computer.

Flip the question around.  The kids are in bed finally and I'm tired of Disney / family crap.  I want a good grown up movie.  So I filter on R or higher.  Unfortunately none of my NR movies show up.  They're all grouped down in the kiddie movies.  So I either miss a big chunk of my collection just trying to find something interesting.  Or I have to look at the NR movies I'm interested in along with the kids stuff, my wife's documentaries, concert videos, accessories, etc.

And to fix this problem all we have to do is let Ken make a small change that will just magically appear in the download.  Those who care can just start putting it to use.  Those who don't care about it either lock their ratings, don't accept the changes as they appear or just accept them if you truly don't care.

It seems to me that one group has a lot to gain while the other group just has a small annoyance at best.

That's also the problem I have with option #1.  Some of my grown up movies will still have the kiddie rating because they don't have the right marketing blurb on the cover.

This is a big part of it for me. As is the plain fact that not everyone sees NR and Unrated as the same thing. Some of use wants it to be completely accurate in our ratings. If it says it is Unrated it should be in profiler as Unrated just like every other rating we see. If for nothing else but pure accuracy. If I see Unrated on the cover instead of NR then I want to be able to put Unrated in profiler.

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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That's also the problem I have with option #1.  Some of my grown up movies will still have the kiddie rating because they don't have the right marketing blurb on the cover.

This is a big part of it for me. As is the plain fact that not everyone sees NR and Unrated as the same thing. Some of use wants it to be completely accurate in our ratings. If it says it is Unrated it should be in profiler as Unrated just like every other rating we see. If for nothing else but pure accuracy. If I see Unrated on the cover instead of NR then I want to be able to put Unrated in profiler.

The part I bolded is the biggest concern that I have, DR2 will sit right beside Dora and not sit right beside Doomsday anymore.

Donnie

Quoting DarklyNoon:

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Wow, 4 new pages overnight.

I do not know if it is only me, but I really have no clue anymore what we are talking about here 

If this is not about parental control (which i couldn't care less about), then what is this about.

Unrated == Not Rated for me and for a lot of others here too, as it was always used this way in the program for years.

I can understand Pete who like to have Unrated as a rating that we can enter and contribute.
But if we do that, Unrated should equal Not rated, for the reason that Death Race 2 should not be seperated from Doomsday: Unrated

If I wouild decide this, I would just name the field "Unrated / Not Rated" as it basically means the same.

cheers
Donnie

That works.

Quoting mreeder50:

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I have not read the entire thread because it's to long, but I think I have the general idea. I like the idea of having both NR and Unrated, so the actual data on the cover can be tracked. I like AESPs check box solution for count as rated ??? and maybe include adult to the check boxes. We are adults and know the difference between Snow White, AVP or Debbie Does. The check boxes would at least give us a way to filter what shows up when we search.

If it hasn't been said, why not have the capability to have both Unrated and R show up in the data, like widescreen and pan & scan do, so we can see that both are represented for a particular profile.

good idea!!!!

Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:

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Now there's  a real idea, mreeder add the ability to track multiple ratings., nothing wrong with that. Alos include being able to capture multiple runtimes. Although I think I can see some possible issues for this idea, int is a reasonable thought.

I like the idea of having multiple ratings too (not to mention multiple runtimes)... but I have to wonder if filter by rating where one with multiple ratings would sort. I guess with the highest rating? But with this... we still have the need for Unrated in the dropdown.

Quoting Mark Harrison:

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Quoting Alien Redrum:

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I don't quite understand the whole 'kiddie movie' argument against this. Do people not check the DVD case when pulling it for their kids, or do you trust DVD Profiler so much that if it's NR it must be safe.

It has nothing to do with kiddie movies, being irresponsible or being dumber than a computer.

Flip the question around.  The kids are in bed finally and I'm tired of Disney / family crap.  I want a good grown up movie.  So I filter on R or higher.  Unfortunately none of my NR movies show up.  They're all grouped down in the kiddie movies.  So I either miss a big chunk of my collection just trying to find something interesting.  Or I have to look at the NR movies I'm interested in along with the kids stuff, my wife's documentaries, concert videos, accessories, etc.

Okay, good. I can see that.

Now, how does the program handle NR currently?

Doesn't it do exactly as you describe?