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Quoting My answer to that was always I have to watch it first... then decide if you can. I done that with all movies... no matter the rating (other then G)... as I wanted to judge the movie for myself... not be told by others.

So like Skip, you don't use the rating info in DVD Profiler at all, instead just remember how you judged the DVD? That's fine, of course, but all in all, I gather that none of you actually use the rating info in DVD Profiler - it seems to serve no purpose whatsoever? Well, at least that clarifies why you have no problem in labelling large quantities of discs as "unrated"...

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Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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Quoting My answer to that was always I have to watch it first... then decide if you can. I done that with all movies... no matter the rating (other then G)... as I wanted to judge the movie for myself... not be told by others.

All in all, I gather that none of you actually use the rating info in DVD Profiler - it seems to serve no purpose whatsoever? Well, at least that clarifies why you have no problem in labelling large quantities of discs as "unrated"...

Of course I use the rating info, I use it all the time when there is no unrated version on the disk, and without checking my collection, I would say 95% of my collection has a rating and a rating info, as only 5 % of it is unrated

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Iuse it as a guide, which is what it should be, but the bottom line is my opinion more than MPAA. I remember some years ago I went to see Batman Returns on Day 2 of release. It was rated PG-13. I saw a mother take her 4 or 5 year old son into to see it. Now obviously on the second day, Mom had not done due diligence. While watching the film's opening scenes I was horrified for that little boy and could just imagine the bad dreams he was going to have about his parents throwing him away like the Penguin. What was that woman thinking or did she think, I don't know, I still feel sorry for that little boy.

To you it would... to me it would not. I much prefer the Unrated over the Rated...as that would be the reason I bought that release. For the Unrated version... not the rated version.

I was going to keep out of this discussion as it doesn't really affect me, but either I have what you describe wrong or I don't think you realise the damage you will do to a hell of a lot of profiles.

You seem to be only looking at a small aspect of "unrated" releases. Let's look at a real-life example.

When X-Men first came out on DVD, it included deleted scenes that, via a branching option, could be put back into the film. The theatrical version is PG-13, the longer version is, technically, unrated. Are you saying that you would want that profile to be marked as unrated? What about the people who use the parental controls of Profiler? They would lose this information that could be important to them. Just because you have no need for the PG-13 to be in the rating field, you can't assume no one wants it there.

The rule as it stands is fairly simple, if there is a rating on the disc use the rating, if not NR. No need for exceptions or conditionals or worrying about regional variations. For the 1% (is that right?) of the database that this doesn't really work for - surely that can be dealt with locally?

The only thing I would suggest is a re-wording of the phrase "no rated version of the film" as many people (myself included) keep reading this as "unrated version of the film", which is wrong.

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The rule as it stands is fairly simple, if there is a rating on the disc use the rating, if not NR. No need for exceptions or conditionals or worrying about regional variations. For the 1% (is that right?) of the database that this doesn't really work for - surely that can be dealt with locally?

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Actually Ken said it was a fraction of 1%. Only the good doctor claimed it was actually 1% of the online. So yes, I agree with you. For that small fraction it can be handled locally.

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This, in reality is probably a very small number of films relatively speaking.

It's a fraction of 1%.

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I was going to keep out of this discussion as it doesn't really affect me, but either I have what you describe wrong or I don't think you realise the damage you will do to a hell of a lot of profiles.

You seem to be only looking at a small aspect of "unrated" releases. Let's look at a real-life example.

When X-Men first came out on DVD, it included deleted scenes that, via a branching option, could be put back into the film. The theatrical version is PG-13, the longer version is, technically, unrated. Are you saying that you would want that profile to be marked as unrated? What about the people who use the parental controls of Profiler? They would lose this information that could be important to them. Just because you have no need for the PG-13 to be in the rating field, you can't assume no one wants it there.

The rule as it stands is fairly simple, if there is a rating on the disc use the rating, if not NR. No need for exceptions or conditionals or worrying about regional variations. For the 1% (is that right?) of the database that this doesn't really work for - surely that can be dealt with locally?

The only thing I would suggest is a re-wording of the phrase "no rated version of the film" as many people (myself included) keep reading this as "unrated version of the film", which is wrong.

Previously, before this rule, when there are two versions (theatrical and unrated) and it also says "Unrated" or "Not Rated" on the back, then it would get the "NR" label. In your example I don't know if it says unrated or not but if not, then it would get the theatrical rating. There are plenty of DVDs that utilize seamless branching but if we leave it in the hands of users to determine unrated or theatrical, then we'll get ping-pong contributions. Taking it from the back cover leaves that out. Doesn't seem too confusing.

Also, keep it locally? The reason the poll was started was to determine how others felt and it seems based on the results that people prefer how it was done before the rule change.

As for the parental controls, I thought that was the point of Ken's proposal to add the Unrated rating which would help in that regard...

Sorry, if I misunderstood your post.

This is the way I understand it as well.

But that is not the rule that the majority wants... what we want is

If the DVD Release has Not Rated / Unrated version on the cover (Even if there is a rated version as well) Mark it as NR (Unrated if/when we get that).

IF/When we get Unrated... that will be made as highest rating... so the rating filter will work even better then it does now... for all unrated release... whether there is a rated version on the disc or not.