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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
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Ok Donnie, using my X-Men example.
It's a PG-13 film (as noted on the back of the cover), however there is an option to play the film with deleted scenes added via branching. This version of the film is technically unrated, it was never submitted to the MPAA. It's not advertised as Unrated, it's not advertised as a Director's Cut. What rating would you give the profile?
Of course we only enter Unrated / Not rated, when the DVD / Blu-ray is labeled this way, we do not invent any UNrated rating.
if the disk is clearly labeled PG-13, that is what we enter.
But if the disk has a PG-13 and an Unrated version on it, we label it Unrated and forget about the PG-13 version 
Donnie
So for that PG-13 theatrical release, that is now unrated DVD, what is the appropriate age for that movie that I can set?
If another movie was rated "R" at the theater and is now "Unrated", what is that appropriate age level that can be set?
In the previous 2 examples, are the appropriate age the same?
An unrated film, has to have a basis in the theatrical rating. There are not many films that take out the "R" stuff to get unrated. In my book, as soon as we have an Unrated / Not Rated version on a disk, the original rating (R-rated, PG, PG-13) becomes obsolete and irralevant (hope I spelled this word correctly). On a side note, we have a 16 page thread without any insulting  Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com | | | | Last edited: by DarklyNoon |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
An exception for that should be easy enough to write...
Rating the main feature only (movie only) If there is an Unrated version as well as a Rated version use NR (or Unrated if we get that).
Exception: If you are in a Region/Locality that rates the entire DVD (including Bonus Material) use the DVD rating . In my experience the US and Canada are the exception here which only rate the main feature. |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | So we just throw out any age basis items for any movie that has an "unrated" banner across the front.
Either we get an "unrated" rating and set it above 17 or it is NR, which is the lowest rating.
This is a heck of a choice.
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
So we just throw out any age basis items for any movie that has an "unrated" banner across the front. Seeing as it's mostly a marketing gimmick, that seems pretty ridiculous. |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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So we just throw out any age basis items for any movie that has an "unrated" banner across the front.
Seeing as it's mostly a marketing gimmick, that seems pretty ridiculous. Completely agree. If we can find a solution, I see no reason to toss Unrated cuts of previously rated films in with films made under Code or not rated children's flicks produced direct-to-video. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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An exception for that should be easy enough to write...
Rating the main feature only (movie only) If there is an Unrated version as well as a Rated version use NR (or Unrated if we get that).
Exception: If you are in a Region/Locality that rates the entire DVD (including Bonus Material) use the DVD rating .
In my experience the US and Canada are the exception here which only rate the main feature. That's merely a viewpoint Rho. From the vewpoint of America the rest of the world is out of step . Come on.  I don't say that create any argument, but that was just silly. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DarklyNoon: Quote:
Of course we only enter Unrated / Not rated, when the DVD / Blu-ray is labeled this way, we do not invent any UNrated rating. Inventing an unrated rating is exactly what you do, because there is no unrated rating. It's only marketing but not a rating. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote:
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So we just throw out any age basis items for any movie that has an "unrated" banner across the front.
Seeing as it's mostly a marketing gimmick, that seems pretty ridiculous.
Completely agree. If we can find a solution, I see no reason to toss Unrated cuts of previously rated films in with films made under Code or not rated children's flicks produced direct-to-video. Cass with one problemm to what you said. From the standpoint of the MPAA Unrated and NR are exactly the same because they recognize NEITHER one. Their highest rating is NC-17. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Either we get an "unrated" rating and set it above 17 or it is NR, which is the lowest rating.
That's the problem. IMO NR should be the highest rating. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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Of course we only enter Unrated / Not rated, when the DVD / Blu-ray is labeled this way, we do not invent any UNrated rating.
Inventing an unrated rating is exactly what you do, because there is no unrated rating. It's only marketing but not a rating. Rho: There is also no such thing NR, it is also merely a marketing and for all intents and purposes Nr and Unrated are exactly the same thing, There is not going to be any kind of advisory data supplied by MPAA, they don't recognize, and there is most iof the time not likely to be any advisory added by the Distributors. We get simply NR or Unrated and both mean the same thing, why not just change NR to NR/Unrated. That way both are covered and we aren't going to get any other nanny state information. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | probably, the only true answer requires a programming change.
We need to add another field called Theatrical rating and change this field to DVD Rating. That would cover this problem, and cover the other localities that rate both the Theatrical and DVD release.
In it's current form, I am not sure we can come up with a sincerely viable option.
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Do we agree that lumping "Dora's Adventures" in with "Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle: Extreme Unrated" is not an ideal situation?
If so, before we settle on a rule, let's get feedback on adding (to US only for now) an "Unrated" rating, with an age of 17. "Unrated" would be used for films with "Unrated" or similar on the cover, which previously received a theatrical rating. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative | | | | Last edited: by Ken Cole |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Do we agree that lumping "Dora's Adventures" in with "Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle: Extreme Unrated" is not an ideal situation?
If so, before we settle on a rule, let's get feedback on adding (to US only for now) an "Unrated" rating, with an age of 17. "Unrated" would be used for films with "Unrated" or similar on the cover, which previously received a theatrical rating. Would be a good solution to add the option "Unrated" I would be very happy with that. Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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So we just throw out any age basis items for any movie that has an "unrated" banner across the front.
Seeing as it's mostly a marketing gimmick, that seems pretty ridiculous. This might be a marketing gimmick in some ways, but the film that is on the disk is NOT the version the MPAA has rated (as it has been altered from its original version), so it is an UNRATED version Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Yes, I understood the facts the first time around, Donnie. It doesn't change the fact that I'm still interested in the rating for the rated version that is on the disc, too. |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Yes, I understood the facts the first time around, Donnie. It doesn't change the fact that I'm still interested in the rating for the rated version that is on the disc, too. Then the only option I see is a second rating field, where we can track the second version of the movie. Wouild that be ok T!M ? cheers Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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