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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorlyonsden5
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We were told an ignore feature may be coming as a future addition to the forum.

Many of us are really looking forward to it when it does come. 


Back to your question IMO if you have more than a couple hundred DVDs then the $30.00 you would spend on this program is nothing in comparison. It is well worth the price of 2 DVDs.

You can stick with 2.4 though if that is what you wish. It will still function for you but you will have to add all of the information for each DVD you add to your collection as well as host your own online collection.

My advice, skip the next couple of DVDs and buy the program. I doubt you will regret it.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLDH
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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@stefank60: Not all U.S.ies, only Skip. If you want I quiet life in these forums, simply ignore all postings on which you see Walt Disney.

@Skip: No need to answer my post, I won't read it.




U.S.ies    I like that, never heard it put that way before.  
stefank60
Registered: August 21, 2007
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well I just had a play with the new version and it failed to find two titles.

Went back to 2.4 and it found them no problem       

not a great start for version 3.0  (shrugs shoulders)
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorJuoquim
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Registered: March 22, 2007
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I like U.S.ies as well.  That's pretty good!

To chime in my own opinion.  I currently have nearly 1900 profiles in my database.  It has been invaluable for lots of reasons like remembering:
  ...which family member has borrowed what...
  ...the name of that actor who...
  ...the other movies that so and so did X in...
  ...keeping track of my inventory...
and best of all:
  ...Oh yeah, I do already have that DVD, so another double dip avoided...

IMHO - DVDP is worth the $30USD, and still a great bargain at twice the price.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Stefan:

Remember this is a user built database. When we moved to Invelos the database had to be both rebuilt from scratch and and incorrect data had to be removed as well when they were able to merge the databases. Without more information it is hard to say what you ran into, but you can port them into 2.4, do your backup and restore them to 3.x. You have to be a premium user to be able to Contribute them, while you mull over paying for the program, I would suggest that you familiarize with the Contribution Rules so that if you decide to buy the program and Contribute that any Contributions will be per the Rules.

Some titles were purged from the 2.x Online for a variety of reasons, the most common I suspect was Incorrect or "made-up" UPC/EAN #'s.

Skip
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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If you're concerned about the price, hold off on buying a DVD or two and put the money into a registration code.

If you liked using the free version 2.4, chances are you will really like 3.x.
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To be honest I wouldn't be contributing as I was advised against that on the old site as I have some discs twice and was advised best way to let the software let me load them twice was to change the ean - it was as a consequnce of this that I should not contribute apparently     

Thanks for the input though 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Yes, stefan, those would be "made-up" UPC#'s and are not allowed and probably why they were removed from the database. Sorry about that.

Skip
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Outta here

Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLithurge
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What , in your opinion -if I may ask, makes it worth the £20/$30 ?

I guess I could download it, have a play, and if I don't feel it's worth the registration carry on using 2.4



I'm really basing my opinion on the fact it's one of only three pieces of s'hareware' I've used on a very regular basis. One of them I no longer use due to the switch from dial up to broadband (it was a download manager).

In response to your other point what's the UPCs/names of the titles you couldn't find?
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well I just had a play with the new version and it failed to find two titles.

Went back to 2.4 and it found them no problem       

not a great start for version 3.0  (shrugs shoulders)


How did you search in the 3.0 database? By EAN/UPC, Disc ID and/or Title Search?
It could be, as Skip mentioned, that these were entries that had to be removed from the database for some reason.

Another possibility results from the fact that the 3.0 version uses the full EAN/UPC as opposed to 2.4 and also that 3.0 uses a more extended Disc ID than 2.4. As a result, when I and other users were converting their 2.4 local database to 3.0, quite a few entries failed to be converted. I (and I guess I'm not the only one) haven't found the time yet to look up all the data and enter them the way 3.0 wants it and contribute them to the central database. As a result, some perfectly valid entries may not have made it into the 3.0 central database yet. This goes for both EAN/UPC and Disc ID entries.

If you were searching by EAN/UPC and used the old 2.4 way of entering them, that could have caused the lack of results.

If you haven't already, you might try to do a Title Search in the 3.0 database for the missing entries and see if you can make a match to your two titles. Title searches are not affected by the changes mentioned above.

As time goes by, the 3.0 database will undoubtedly contain all valid entries that are in the 2.4 database and more (new releases can only be found in 3.0, as 2.4 is no longer being updated).

Good luck tracing your "missing" titles!
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And as you've already found, some of our fellow users on here are a lot more "sensitive" than others. Whether that's anything to do with their US origins, I couldn't possibly comment. 


           

Good one, North (or should I say: Francis Urquhart  )
stefank60
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No worries skip

dee - yes I was using title search. I guess whether old ones appear , as you suggest, could depend if people who contributed to the old database :

1) Upgrade
2) bother getting missing entries added to their new database (I imagine they would)
3) If they upload

if they don't there could potentially be quite significant gaps in the new database   
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorlyonsden5
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every valid title was imported from 2.4/5 to 3.0 after Invelos settled their "differences" with IVS. Anything that was supposed to be there before is now there. If it is not, it will never be, since it had something wrong with it to begin with (there may be a few exceptions of course).

Whatever titles are missing are for whatever reason considered invalid. There will be no "gaps" in the new database. There will be only proper title though.
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every valid title was imported from 2.4/5 to 3.0 after Invelos settled their "differences" with IVS. Anything that was supposed to be there before is now there. If it is not, it will never be, since it had something wrong with it to begin with (there may be a few exceptions of course).


Yes, there ARE exceptions, and more than "a few". Some perfectly valid entries failed to convert correctly - either not convert at all, or (worse) converted wrongly. Just a few days ago I came across a Dutch DVD for which the EAN was converted WRONGLY - which CREATES an invalid entry in the 3.0 database instead of eliminating one.

Quoting Ken Cole:
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Additionally, only profiles with associated images were converted.


Which is another reason why your statement is much too bold.
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dee - yes I was using title search. I guess whether old ones appear , as you suggest, could depend if people who contributed to the old database :

1) Upgrade
2) bother getting missing entries added to their new database (I imagine they would)
3) If they upload


OK, thanks. BTW, the ones that did not convert correctly DO appear in your local 3.0 database (after importing your 2.4 local database into 3.0 from a restored 2.4 backup) - that makes it less urgent to correct the unconverted data. The only thing is they cannot be contributed to or updated from the central database.

So if you were to decide to start working with a licensed 3.0, you could import your 2.4 database including the missing titles into 3.0. And then you might contribute the missing ones to the 3.0 database (provided they are valid entries and comply with the 3.0 contribution rules).
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OK thanks for that.
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