thanks a lot for the info. Do you think it's possible to ship a player from austria to them and back? Hopefully. As for your question, I live in Vienna.

Quoting GSyren:

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Sony players are definitely not code free normally. If they were, the folks at bluraymods.com wouldn't have created mod kits for them.

I guess it's conceivable that Sony is making code free players for some markets, but I highly doubt it. If they did, there would have been a lot of talk about it on various forums, and this is the first I have heard of anything like that.

Sony players will never be code free

Well your were all right. I talked to sony and it seems my boss misunderstood. they aren't codefree. Not in Blu Ray Mode and not in DVD Mode. But I won't give up until I find one.. I can't just buy and american one.. as I wanna watch european blu rays too..

Thanks for the info. Since I already have 2 DVD Players that are region free I really don't care that much about the DVD Part. It will play Zone A but does it play Zone B too? I don't wanna buy all discs in the US.

Quoting rokhopa:

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...but until Sony at least tacitally backs out of the Standard DVD zone nonsense which no longer makes any commercial sense, we are going to have to put up with this.

Sony (the hardware side) really has little to do with it.  They've provided the means to enforce region coding.  We just need the software people not to encode the discs.

Quoting rokhopa:

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It is not quite true that Sony have nothing to do with region coding. Their regular DVD players can easily be re-coded to 0, why not allow the same to happen to PS3s and other Blu Ray players.

I realize they can make region free players.  But if the studios were asking for the feature, it wouldn't be there.  The pressure should be put on the studios to stop region coding their software.  Then we wouldn't have to buy special players or hack the ones we have.

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Is there anyone out there who does not have a region free standard DVD player either out of the box or via a simple re-code?

I don't.

Quoting Stephan.klose:

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Can anyone think of a sensible way to get studios to stop encoding them?

Please, please, please, pretty please with sugar on top? 


Nah. Ain't gonna happen. Streetdates vary in each country, and studios want to sell in each country. If everybody starts importing the earliest release or (worse for them) the cheapest release, it would be impossible to sell anything.
On the other hand, no release has every single subtitle or localized dub. Many people want to watch the movie reading or hearing their own language, so they won't buy imports anyway. Most consumers don't even know where to find them, and a large majority is still afraid to buy on the net.

Region coding is one the main reasons why I haven't switched to bluray. That, and I'm not going to substitute my dvd's. I'm also not interested in the titles that have been and will be released on bluray. "But Pirates of the Caribbean 1-3 look soooooo much better on bluray!!", I hear you say. That may be, but I think they're s**t movies. You can't polish a turd, folks.

I'm also not interested in the titles that have been and will be released on bluray. "But Pirates of the Caribbean 1-3 look soooooo much better on bluray!!", I hear you say. That may be, but I think they're s**t movies. You can't polish a turd, folks.

This may be true up to a point but some blu-ray releases of old movies look fantastic. 2001 for example. I have some 80 blu-ray discs and will never watch the SD version again of any of them. Yes some are better transfers than others but none are anything but clear improvements over SD, mostly by a huge margin. Once one has seen Blu Ray it is very hard to turn back. If a BD is in the works it is 'dont get the SD' for me.