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Spelling Errors in Overviews
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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ROFLMAO, you have absolutely no idea whether it is a typo or spelling error, Martin. The ONLY person that would know that in this case is me. You simply know that it is an error, and it could be either one. You do not posses the information to be able to determine which it is. You MIGHT be able to infer that it is spelling error since the word is misspelled twice, but that is only an inference and that is not definitive. You can also not determine whether or not the error was intentional or if it was serving some a larger purpose, which might relate to the film in some way. Then there's always the question of the Queen's English (which we all know is backwards  ) or the English of those dastardly colonies.

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Neither of your poll answers is correct.

We can correct spelling errors that were introduced by users who did not copy the Overview exactly.

We cannot correct spelling errors that actually appear in the Overview on the back cover of the DVD.

I have to agree that you seem to be trying to find a problem that does not exist.

Spelling errors and typos are two different things.


Fine.  For our purposes, spelling corrections refer to errors made by users when copying the Overview.

They do not refer to spelling errors intorduced by the distributor.

I see no mention of "typos" in the Rules.

This is just palin silly.


I am in total agreement, Hal. ^5

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Spelling errors and typos are two different things.


Fine.  For our purposes, spelling corrections refer to errors made by users when copying the Overview.

They do not refer to spelling errors intorduced by the distributor.

I see no mention of "typos" in the Rules.

This is just palin silly.

How do you know which is which and what "spelling error" the rule is referring to? It could be referring to the original text, but it might as well could refere to a typo made by the contributor. The rule is not clear to me and therefore I'm confused.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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In that case, Martin you have gotten guidance.

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ROFLMAO, you have absolutely no idea whether it is a typo or spelling error, Martin.

No, you're right. You are the master of spelling errors and typos. I'm sorry, I bow to you and forgive me my ignorance.
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I think we are supposed to correct spelling errors caused by incorrect transcription, so to match the Overview on the case, but we are not supposed to change the original text, not even to "correct" it.


That's my interpretation and what I've always found to be the overwhelming view of users.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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Spelling errors and typos are two different things.


Fine.  For our purposes, spelling corrections refer to errors made by users when copying the Overview.

They do not refer to spelling errors intorduced by the distributor.

I see no mention of "typos" in the Rules.

This is just palin silly.

How do you know which is which and what "spelling error" the rule is referring to? It could be referring to the original text, but it might as well could refere to a typo made by the contributor.


Are you serious?

I know which is which by comparing the DVDP Overview to the actual Overview on the DVD.  If the DVDP Overview matches exactly to the cover and contains a mis-spelling, then it was introduced by the distributor and must not be corrected.

If the spelling error exists in DVDP but it DOES NOT exist in the Overview on the DVD cover, then it is a spelling error introduced by the contributor and must be corrected to match the DVD cover!

Why do you suppose everyone but you understands this?
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I know which is which by comparing the DVDP Overview to the actual Overview on the DVD.  If the DVDP Overview matches exactly to the cover and contains a mis-spelling, then it was introduced by the distributor and must not be corrected.

If the spelling error exists in DVDP but it DOES NOT exist in the Overview on the DVD cover, then it is a spelling error introduced by the contributor and must be corrected to match the DVD cover!

Why do you suppose everyone but you understands this?


I must agree with hal and skip on this issue,  It has always been about what is seen, not what is infered.
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I have to agree with everyone else here... it seems completely clear and obvious to me.
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Just to clarify....
This rule:
"Overviews should match the back of the DVD case exactly"
means that if there is a spelling error printed on the box, then you enter the overview with the spelling error.

This comment in the rules:
"You are making a subtle change that may be hard to spot - for example spelling correction to the overview. "

Refers to the fact that if someone else has entered an overview previously (or you did) and you fat fingered something, then when you correct it, then you need to call it out in contribution notes.

This is to help the voters understand what you changed because it is not highlighted when they view the changes.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Thanks Gerri.

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Thanks for clearing that up, Gerri. I had a feeling that it was meant that way, but I just couldn't figure it out.
Martin Zuidervliet

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As a proofreader, I find the above mentioned separation of the terms "spelling error" and "typo" hilarious. Anything misspelled is a spelling error. Anything mistyped is a typographical error (abbreviated as "typo"). So if the writer or typesetter misspells something for a DVD cover and it gets printed, it is both a spelling error and a typo. If one of us fat fingers (nice, Gerri) a spelling mistake, then it, too, is both a spelling error and a typo. Typos also can include erronious (or missing) punctuation, odd spacings, and weird wraparounds. A typo can be any error introduced into copy during the typesetting process, including spelling errors. In our instances spelling errors and typos are not separate, (spelling errors printed on DVD cases; spelling errors introduced by transcribers who submit profiles) but one is contained within the other, with spelling errors being a subset of typos.
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I guess I'll have to be the odd man out and agree with Martin on the difference between typo and spelling error - although I have never had any problem understanding the meaning of the rule.

When you transcribe text, the spelling is done by the original author, you are just typing what that person wrote. You can transcribe gibberish, and if you transcribe it wrong it's a typo, but it's not a spelling error.

You can also misread something as another word. If the original text says "I saw his face" and you transcribe it as "I say the face", then that's not a spelling error.

So, a spelling error is a typo, but a typo doesn't have to be a spelling error.
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As a proofreader, I find the above mentioned separation of the terms "spelling error" and "typo" hilarious. Anything misspelled is a spelling error. Anything mistyped is a typographical error (abbreviated as "typo"). So if the writer or typesetter misspells something for a DVD cover and it gets printed, it is both a spelling error and a typo. If one of us fat fingers (nice, Gerri) a spelling mistake, then it, too, is both a spelling error and a typo. Typos also can include erronious (or missing) punctuation, odd spacings, and weird wraparounds. A typo can be any error introduced into copy during the typesetting process, including spelling errors. In our instances spelling errors and typos are not separate, (spelling errors printed on DVD cases; spelling errors introduced by transcribers who submit profiles) but one is contained within the other, with spelling errors being a subset of typos.


I agree with that. Words that are wrongly spelled in a sentence are as ugly as a red pimple on the nose, whatever the cause. I still regret that contribution rules advocate what all teachers try, with many difficulties, to teach to our children...
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