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Ratings - Rated vs. Unrated on Same Disc (Locked)
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Thanks for bring the thread back... I personally am thrilled to see most people prefer Unrated.

Ken...
have you given this any more thought? Would love an update on it.
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So, any update on this because we got our first submission (for Dark City: Director's Cut BD). I need to know if I need to go in and lock down some profiles, lol.
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I haven't heard a thing... I would lock them to be safe. Though I really do wish Ken would let us know something on this!
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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I'm not aware of any laws which prevent the purchase of R or NR films by anyone in the US.  There may be some, varying from state to state.


I still get carded for dvds and blu-rays at Wal-Mart from time to time, and I'm 39!
Guess it's nice to look young, and most days it's flattering or comical, but sometimes it's annoying!
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Quoting bigdaddyhorse:
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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I'm not aware of any laws which prevent the purchase of R or NR films by anyone in the US.  There may be some, varying from state to state.


I still get carded for dvds and blu-rays at Wal-Mart from time to time, and I'm 39!
Guess it's nice to look young, and most days it's flattering or comical, but sometimes it's annoying!


Yeah, I know at Wal Mart the register automatically flags the cashier to ask about the age of the buyer, though I have yet to get carded, lol.
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There have actually been court cases about this. It would be unconstitutional to make MPAA ratings enforceable because Congress can't give a private body the power to make law. This is besides any free speech issues that would arise from restricting access to content. A lot of places in the U.S. do enforce ratings, but this is to keep parents from complaining.
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My main concern with changing this is that the program treats NR as lower than G, not higher than NC-17 (to use US as an example).  Additionally, changing this would result with the merging of films which were never given a rating (TV shows, etc) with what usually amounts to a slightly modified version of previously rated films.

Perhaps we need another rating "Unrated", which would be used for these?  It could be set to an age of 17.  Thoughts?
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I for one would love to see that Ken! I have said more then once over the years I wish we had an NR and an Unrated rating to keep these separate.  The problem you describe has always been a problem for the Unrated release that that has no rated release anyway.
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BTW Ken... Am I thinking right that you could give us the new rating without having to do a program update? If so even better!
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I for one would love to see that Ken! I have said more then once over the years I wish we had an NR and an Unrated rating to keep these separate.  The problem you describe has always been a problem for the Unrated release that that has no rated release anyway.

I agree with the Wolfman on all counts.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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My main concern with changing this is that the program treats NR as lower than G, not higher than NC-17 (to use US as an example).  Additionally, changing this would result with the merging of films which were never given a rating (TV shows, etc) with what usually amounts to a slightly modified version of previously rated films.

Perhaps we need another rating "Unrated", which would be used for these?  It could be set to an age of 17.  Thoughts?


Agree with others, that would work for me. 
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ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

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Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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BTW Ken... Am I thinking right that you could give us the new rating without having to do a program update? If so even better!


Yes, it can be available in tonight's database update.  I'll give it some thought.

What localities should this apply to?  I'm aware that many do not allow 'Unrated' versions.
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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My main concern with changing this is that the program treats NR as lower than G, not higher than NC-17 (to use US as an example).  Additionally, changing this would result with the merging of films which were never given a rating (TV shows, etc) with what usually amounts to a slightly modified version of previously rated films.

Perhaps we need another rating "Unrated", which would be used for these?  It could be set to an age of 17.  Thoughts?


Part of the problem is that the current system doesn't really address this. The rated version is not included more often than not. The following seem to be the categories of film NR in my collection. Somebody can let me know if any of them are missing:

1. Movies from before 1968 that were never subsequently submitted for rating. (Most are pretty tame in content, but some, especially from the last few years of this era like The Dirty Dozen, are not.)
2. Regular Direct-to-video releases. (These vary widely in content. You have everything from Troma schlock to Veggietales.)
3. Movies that never got wide theatrical release. Note these usually come from the festival circuit and a lot of them, but not nearly all, are documentaries. These also vary widely content-wise. (Examples: Control Room, The Artisocrats, Cannibal!: The Musical)
4. Non-traditional content like golf advice, exercise videos and accessories. (Sweatin' to the Oldies, Digital Video Essentials) 
5. Special features discs for movies that get their own entry because they cover multiple movies. These tend to have content in line with the movies they cover. Example: Star Wars Trilogy Bonus Material.
6. Music releases. Concerts and music videos generally have the RIAA's parental advisory logo in the case of adult content, though this is not necessarily the case if they aren't published by a music label.
7. Altered version of MPAA-rated content that don't make any difference in age-appropriateness. These may be minor tweaks (like scrapping a bad effects shot in Evil Dead, which leads to most of the DVD releases being unrated) or more significant (I Am Legend's alternate ending, extended cut of The Blues Brothers).
8. Harder versions of movies which were MPAA-rated. (example: Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy.)
9. Movies which actually do have an MPAA rating, but it isn't on the package for whatever reason. (Criterion releases of Straw Dogs, Time Bandits and the Love Conquers all version of Brazil.)
10. Foreign movies which never got wide theatrical release in the U.S. Examples: most anime, Are You Being Served?: The Movie.

Can we imagine a system that handles all these in a reasonable way?
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What localities should this apply to?  I'm aware that many do not allow 'Unrated' versions.


I can only say that it doesn't apply to the UK.
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