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New "Unrated" Rating (Locked)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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Thank you, I'll start locking everything down.

Quoting TheMovieman:
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Ah, I see. So locking down the profiles it is. 

Quoting DarklyNoon:
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will also be locking everything down now, this must be the most illogical program change I ever saw.

See what I mean by causing more problem than anything else...

Quoting DarklyNoon:
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In am still puzzled who initially came up with the suggestion of such a change....

As I am.
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To complete my earlier example, if we go with option number 2.  The highest rating wins, as with option number 1.

"Dark City" has an 'R' rated version and an 'NR' version.  It was previously theatrically rated, therefore it is "Unrated".  Unrated > R, therefore, the rating is 'Unrated'.

"The Hangover: Unrated" has an 'R' rated version and an 'Unrated' version.  Unrated > R, therefore the rating is 'Unrated'

"Dora the Explorer" has only an 'NR' version.  Therefore the rating is 'NR'.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarklyNoon
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I am with you AESP_pres,

I still have to see the crowd who initially wanted this program change.

I never have seen this whole issue cause any problems around here, so who does want this change ?

Anyways, KEN has decided to do that , most here do passionately disagree, so locking down is the only way to avoid corrupting my local database.
Really sad to see this

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Quoting AESP_pres:
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Quoting DarklyNoon:
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In am still puzzled who initially came up with the suggestion of such a change....

As I am.


From what I recall having been said, it wasn't actually requested. Apparently, some people had been doing it one way & the rest the other way & Ken wanted to clear it up.

Until the change though, I'd not seen anyone doing it the other way (using the rated over not rated).
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Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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Quoting AESP_pres:
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Quoting DarklyNoon:
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In am still puzzled who initially came up with the suggestion of such a change....

As I am.


From what I recall having been said, it wasn't actually requested. Apparently, some people had been doing it one way & the rest the other way & Ken wanted to clear it up.

Until the change though, I'd not seen anyone doing it the other way (using the rated over not rated).


Exactly, I also have never seen it and my collection is kinda huge.

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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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With option number 2, 99.9% of the titles which were previously (before the rule change) "NR" will continue to be "NR" or move to "Unrated".  They will not be assigned a rating such as 'R'.

Of these titles, the vast majority of those with content generally unsuitable for children will now be "Unrated", a rating which will allow normal parental control and audience filters to function normally.
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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To complete my earlier example, if we go with option number 2.  The highest rating wins, as with option number 1.

"Dark City" has an 'R' rated version and an 'NR' version.  It was previously theatrically rated, therefore it is "Unrated".  Unrated > R, therefore, the rating is 'Unrated'.

"The Hangover: Unrated" has an 'R' rated version and an 'Unrated' version.  Unrated > R, therefore the rating is 'Unrated'

"Dora the Explorer" has only an 'NR' version.  Therefore the rating is 'NR'.


KEN , the vast majority of NOT RATED movies are the action / horror direct-to-video relases.
And with both of those poll options all those violent and gory movies go into the NOT RATED category.

This cannot be what anyone wants here, this defies any existing logic.

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Quoting Ken Cole:
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Of these titles, the vast majority of those with content generally unsuitable for children will now be "Unrated", a rating which will allow normal parental control and audience filters to function normally.


This is simply wrong KEn, look at my previous posting

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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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The vast majority are actually television shows.  Note again that this new rating applies only to the US and Canada.  Note also that the titles you're referencing have always been marked "NR".  The suggested system doesn't change them.
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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The vast majority are actually television shows.  Note again that this new rating applies only to the US and Canada.  Note also that the titles you're referencing have always been marked "NR".  The suggested system doesn't change them.


Yes they were always NR and belonged together with all the Unrated ones, the Director's Cuts and so on, and now they would be seperated from them.

And I am also only talking about USA / Canadian releases, I own lots and lots of direct-to-video movies and many are Not RAted.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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Note again that this new rating applies only to the US and Canada.

Do you notice that some users who will be affected by this uneeded change doesn't agree with it? or maybe only the opinion of 1 or 2 users count, if so why you don't make the changes you want without mentionning them since it looks like the decision was made anyway. No need to create a make believe sense of possible discussion in the forum...
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And some users affected by this needed change agree with it. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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Yes but we know that you agree with it because a certain user doesn't
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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And some users affected by this needed change agree with it. 


But does it make any sense when (in the example Ken listed) that since the back of Dark City (the Director's Cut mind you) has "Not Rated" on the back, thus will be R (since R > NR) BUT because The Hangover says "Unrated" (and also includes the R-rated theatrical version) will be Unrated?
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Quoting DarklyNoon:
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I am with you AESP_pres,

I still have to see the crowd who initially wanted this program change.

I never have seen this whole issue cause any problems around here, so who does want this change ?

Anyways, KEN has decided to do that , most here do passionately disagree, so locking down is the only way to avoid corrupting my local database.
Really sad to see this

Donnie

LOL, Ken, some would consider Barney unsuitable for any age group. I understand what you are trying to accomplish. You seem to be returning to highest rating wins with some slight mods to accomodate the kid's shows. It is not going to be an ultimate fix because it will inevitably mix some titles up. That is why I think ultimately, and yes I know this is next version stuff , that the best answer is to allow users to take Dora's NR and Dark City's NR and add their own specifics to the rating to flesh it out for themselves, of course this would HAVE to be a strictly local issue, but that's not a big deal.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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Quoting TheMovieman:
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And some users affected by this needed change agree with it. 


But does it make any sense when (in the example Ken listed) that since the back of Dark City (the Director's Cut mind you) has "Not Rated" on the back, thus will be R (since R > NR) BUT because The Hangover says "Unrated" (and also includes the R-rated theatrical version) will be Unrated?

That is only true for option 1 of the poll.  With option 2 they are both "Unrated".  Please see my post near the top of this page.
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