I am kind of in the middle.

It becomes really difficult to remove them from the cast, when we are allowed to put in uncredited, no matter how big or small of a role they played.  By that standard, we put listed extras below that of uncredited actors.  I am not sure that I can allow that standard.

On the other hand, I remember an argument about ADR voices.  Some argued that they should be allowed, because they are voices in the film, even though  they have no particular credited role. 

I think a compromise might be, If they are identified extras treat them like uncredited (without the uncredited tag) and identify the role they played (i.e. Man on pier)

Charlie

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Cast, credited anywhere, should be included in DVDP.  By definition, if they are not credited with the rest of the cast, then the film does not have "standard" credits.  Pretty easy to figure out, if you ask me.

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Quoting Winston Smith:

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self-imposed hiatus

     

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if we can enter 1200 uncredited extras in Around the World in 80 Days then we should be able to enter credited extras for other films.

Don't forget that all of them were documented at least for the canadian locality profile. I sure know since I'm the one who did it last year (or the year before) and it took me a couple of days to enter the cast using the official program as a proof. I suppose the profile was cloned for all the others...

BTW I don't see where is the problem to credit the documented extras as they are for the profile from the topic openner.

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The way we've historically treated entries like this is to only credit those whose names appear in the standard cast block of the credits, where such a block exists.

Historically, we did that, because that is what the rules told us to do.  As I just said to Winston, that restriction has been removed from the rules.  As it stands right now, as long as they are listed in the credits, they can be entered as credited cast.

Martian:

With all due respect, you aren't making sense. You are in effect saying that cast has no determination standard, which means that any and every body becomes cast. Do you have a standard that you apply, are you guessing (what basis?), are you using a dartboard or some other device to decide what is or is not cast. Where is the standard? And if there is one what is it? It sounds to me that you believe that there is no standard and we are all completely to not only decide what is or is not cast, but we are also free to impose that choice on everyone else....sounds like a free-for-all to me...exactly the sort of the thing the Rules were designed to avoid.

I hope your standard isn't based on the use of one word...Actor, Iknow you aren't that foolish, no insult intended.

Martian, my friend, I am not taking anything out you or anyone else. It simply doesn't make sense. Now why doesn't it make sense, permit to attempt an explanation. I am sure that you are aware that Stunt people are factually a part of the Cast in most films. Cast and Stunts listed under one heading of cast (when it is actually added that way) and then Crew, with everybody else coming under the CREW heading, this would include Voice Actors, Extras and so forth. But we did not choose to include Stunt Persons...why not, do you suppose, there were two reasons, reasons which have a very interesting parallel to this particular discussion. I will give you the answer in my next post, but I am curious to see if you can surmise why Stunt People were deliberately left out of the equation, I'll call it 3 reasons even though I think one is related to another,

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Had Ken not changed the rule, I might agree with you on this, but he did so I can't.

Exactly. This is how it is now, how they were aren't really relevent anymore. Sound to me like arguing with a policeman because I wouldn't wear my security belt in my car because it was legal to not wear it 30 years ago...

Rules like laws changed Skip whatever we liked it or not and that one isn't really ambigiously worded as usually.