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Quoting surfeur51:

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A contributor not familiar with French, and who does not want to make any research, will enter JEAN PAUL BELMONDO as Jean/Paul/Belmondo.

And why is this a problem?

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Because "Jean Paul" is his first name!

Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:

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Combing First and middle name into a signle field would seemingly not hurt anything and solve some problems.

Not enough to be worth it, IMHO.

A single name field is the only way to eliminate parsing problems.

Quoting hal9g:

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A single name field is the only way to eliminate parsing problems.

Quoting scotthm:

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Since there is a space between "Jean" and "Paul" it makes since to split it into two fields because doing so has no negative consequences, unless some people absolutely refuse to do so just because they know it's supposed to be one name.

I agree with you, but there's the problem right there: we have such users... The entire question here is not so much "how should we do it?", but "how do we get everyone on the same page?" Personally, I don't intimately know most people that I enter into DVD Profiler, and as such, often I can't be entirely sure on how to parse their name. And "documentation" is pretty much nonexistent. So basically, I'd be willing to accept whatever the rules tell me to do, I'm willing to go either way. The one thing I want, is that I'm making the same call as everyone else - not what we have now, that I submit a name as 1/2/3 into one profile, and then when I audit the next profile find that the online has that same name as 1 2//3, showing up as a difference in my contribution when I didn't even touch it, while I'm contributing an entirely different change, and then causing no-votes. That's what I hate about parsing...

I'm afraid you're right, yeah. Still, it's unfortunate. Just a couple of days ago I worked on a TV season, and there were twelve (!) names where my local parsing was different than the parsing in the online variant of that profile. So when I wanted to submit that completely redone, "as credited" set of cast and crew data, I had to go back and change the parsing of twelve names, divided over the cast and crew sections, then contribute, and then fix them all back again. And I actually went through that ordeal this time, but I imagine many people just don't bother anymore, and I can certainly imagine me not bothering with that anymore if this keeps getting worse.

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Quoting scotthm:

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Since there is a space between "Jean" and "Paul" it makes since to split it into two fields because doing so has no negative consequences, unless some people absolutely refuse to do so just because they know it's supposed to be one name.

I agree with you, but there's the problem right there: we have such users... The entire question here is not so much "how should we do it?", but "how do we get everyone on the same page?" Personally, I don't intimately know most people that I enter into DVD Profiler, and as such, often I can't be entirely sure on how to parse their name. And "documentation" is pretty much nonexistent. So basically, I'd be willing to accept whatever the rules tell me to do, I'm willing to go either way. The one thing I want, is that I'm making the same call as everyone else - not what we have now, that I submit a name as 1/2/3 into one profile, and then when I audit the next profile find that the online has that same name as 1 2//3, showing up as a difference in my contribution when I didn't even touch it, while I'm contributing an entirely different change, and then causing no-votes. That's what I hate about parsing...

None of this would matter if we had a proper linking system!

Quoting hal9g:

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I actually didn't think I would need to explain this as it is pretty self-evident.

A quick glance through the database will show you that it isn't that self-evident to most users. You'd be suprised at the amount of people who'd vote vote "no" to something like that without even giving it so much as a moment's thought.

Quoting hal9g:

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if you will go to the screen where we enter a new cast member, you will see that it asks for three separate fields: First Name, Middle Name, Last Name. 

I actually didn't think I would need to explain this as it is pretty self-evident.

Thank you very much for condescending to help me understand this very complex issue.

Now, tell me again why it matters since Jean / Paul / Lastname and Jean Paul // Lastname both display and sort the same?

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