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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dan Quote:
They are already working on the next hi-def format for the home. I'm not sure what they will call it or if it will make it to the mainstream but it is a 4Kp video system. It has 4X the pixels of 1080p. Once it reaches this level, I'm sure it will remain the standard for years to come.
Just thought you would like to know. Links to this info? From all I have read... after Blu-ray everyone is looking at Digital Downloads. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting NewEnglander: Quote:
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They are already working on the next hi-def format for the home. I'm not sure what they will call it or if it will make it to the mainstream but it is a 4Kp video system. It has 4X the pixels of 1080p. Once it reaches this level, I'm sure it will remain the standard for years to come.
Just thought you would like to know.
Links to this info?
From all I have read... after Blu-ray everyone is looking at Digital Downloads. Well, that's what the pundits are saying. The thing is, we have to stop looking at this serially. I personally believe what we are going to witness is a fragmenting of the home video market. One chunk opting primarily for digital download while another chunk primarily opting for maximum quality. Quality has never before won over convenience in this market and I don't expect that to change. Of course when you can bundle quality with convenience (CDs, DVD), then you have a paradigm change. Until the next paradigm change, the market is just going to continue to fragment into a myriad of different digital delivery systems. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting NewEnglander: Quote:
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That's why HDTV sales continue to rise, right?
We're not talking about HDTV sales alone here...we're debating whether Blu Ray will become the Laserdisk of the 21st Century. Sure, HDTV sales are rising as prices drop. One can get a 20" - 26" LCD HDTV for $350 - $500.00 but when coupled with the cost of additional equipment to go Blu Ray, I don't believe "the masses" will be clammoring at the doors of retailers at Christmas buying up Blu Ray. Regular Joe Shmoe has more pressing matters at the moment, like filling up his gas tank to get to work. If Regular Joe can continue to purchase SD DVDs with more special features for $15 less than the same Blu Ray title then he'll continue to do so. If he needs to replace his worn out DVD player he can do so for $79.99. Why would Regular Joe pay $300 - $700 for a Blu Ray player and pay more for movies when he's completely satisfied with DVD? Where's the incentive? Pretty picture alone doesn't cut it.
You do realize you can still get a free blu-ray player when you buy an HDTV, right?
You think that's going to stop anytime soon? It's not. Really? Show me where. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Best Buy -- 46" LCD HDTV, PS3 $2100 (Save $460) PS3=free PS3 = Blu ray player
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting NewEnglander: Quote:
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Bernies Show me a link to a verifiable offer. I checked the special offers at Best Buy and I didn't see any that included a free Blu-Ray player with the purchase of a HD-TV. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Best Buy Page 4 of the ad Sony 1080P 46" HDTV PS3 Install $2139 Save $460 You can browse the Best Buy ad at bestbuy.com, I did.  | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... | | | | Last edited: by NewEnglander |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting NewEnglander: Quote:
Best Buy
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Sony 1080P 46" HDTV
PS3
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$2139
Save $460
You can browse the Best Buy ad at bestbuy.com, I did.
LMAO Right...so, Regular Joe has to fork over $2,139 for a 46" Sony and gets a free game console. I can see the masses now... Such a deal  | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: May 25, 2007 |  Posts: 263 |
| | Posted: | | | | Personally, I only own about 10 bluray movies, as I will only spend the extra money buying a bluray movie if I beleive the movie is worth due to good visual and sound effects. I will only start to but more blurays when they are cheaper. In Australia bluray discs roughly cost between $35 - $40AUD, where as the dvd version of the same new release movie is usually about $25 - $30. |
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| Registered: August 4, 2007 | | Posts: 3 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here in Québec for a new release generally they are about 3-5$ difference for the same version (i'am not talking about crappy 1 disc SL release, talking about 2 disc edition of DVD with same content). Rambo (2008) was the same price.
For catalog, of course it's $$$$, just like VHS was 9.99$ and DVD were 29.99$ in 1997 for catalog. I actually pay less for my Blu-ray than i did my DVD in 1997 at launch, in Canada.. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | A lot of people are paying less than they did in '97. I think the problem is that people are now spending 2008 dollars and there's something cheaper on the next shelf over. |
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| Registered: June 27, 2007 |  Posts: 2,049 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
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I can't believe people are arguing about this. The difference in quality is purely subjective and will very from person to person based on equipment, equipment calibration, screen size, seating distance, personal expectations/biases, eyesight, movies being compared and on and on and on.
There is no right or wrong answer. HD is an improvement over SD in most cases. How much of an improvement can't can quantified. It's up to each person to decide if the improvement is worth the extra cost or not.
It wasn't my intention at all to create this discussion when I created this thread. I wanted to know if people think if Blu Ray will ever be as mainstream as DVD. or (like the title said) will it be the Laserdisc of the 21st century. A superior product, that not a lot of people buy.
I wasn't intending to pick on you (or anyone else) with my post. I just think the subject of is DVD -> Blu-ray is as big a jump as VHS -> DVD is a silly one. There is no right or wrong answer. In fact I think DVD -> Blu-ray (or HD DVD) is more impressive than the jump from VHS.
It's just that the topic was starting to go back and forth and I wanted to see the thread get back on the main topic, since the side discussion, while interesting, was starting to go in circles. I think it's an interesting subject and don't want to see it get derailed. thanks for that. I was trying to steer the discussion back to the main theme but somehow I failed. As far as HDTV's go. I work at an electronic retailer. 1080p TV's make less than 10% of the sales. Most people buy large TV's but still 720p.. Most of them care about size, not quality. That's why I see Blu Ray having a hard time establishing itself. | | | | Check out my Youtube channel under https://www.youtube.com/user/alittleolder |
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| Registered: June 27, 2007 | | Posts: 2,049 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
A lot of people are paying less than they did in '97. I think the problem is that people are now spending 2008 dollars and there's something cheaper on the next shelf over. If you take the first DVD Players. They were hovering around $1300. You can get Blu Ray Players for below $300. Interesting note on the side: We sell a sh*tload of HD-Sound equipment though. We sell way more Onkyo 606 than we do Blu Ray Players (by Blu Ray Players I mean all models combined).. I sell most of them and most people are convinced by the possible Sound capabilities of a Blu Ray Player in conjunction with a HD Sound Receiver. So it seems at least that people wanna be ready for the future. They just aren't convinced of Blu Ray yet. Same as us. | | | | Check out my Youtube channel under https://www.youtube.com/user/alittleolder |
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| Registered: June 27, 2007 | | Posts: 2,049 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting NewEnglander: Quote:
Best Buy
Page 4 of the ad
Sony 1080P 46" HDTV
PS3
Install
$2139
Save $460
You people in the US have it so easy. I paid $2050 for my 1080p 37" Samsung. (The new model though). The older ones you get for below $1400..
You can browse the Best Buy ad at bestbuy.com, I did.
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| Registered: March 28, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,299 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Stephan.klose: Quote:
You people in the US have it so easy. I paid $2050 for my 1080p 37" Samsung. (The new model though). The older ones you get for below $1400... Those prices sound similar to what's in that ad. I think you must be misreading it and thinking the price is $460, when in fact that's the discount. The price is $2139, and that doesn't include tax (if bought in a state with sales tax.) KM | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS!
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| Registered: June 27, 2007 | | Posts: 2,049 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah I know. It's a difference though, if you pay that kind of money for a 37" tv or a 46" that includes a ps3..
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Right...so, Regular Joe has to fork over $2,139 for a 46" Sony and gets a free game console. I can see the masses now...Such a deal The gaming system won't sell a TV. But if you're in the market anyway, it is an enticing offer. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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