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Proposal for romanization of names of Chinese/HK actors and actresses for the database
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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No, polls are not Rules. And you MUST document any such changes. Making assumptions is incorrect, I doubt very seriously if you would speaking from any platform of expertise as i douibt that you have and first hand relationships with such personnel. All you would be doing is making an assumption which may or may NOT be accurate.

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Someone is now trying to change Chow Yun-Fat to Yun-Fat Chow on a number of profiles. I assume the credit lookup tool is still the way to do it, and that does not currently support this change.
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I just voted no to a bunch of the attempts to change Chow Yun-Fat's name.  Per the credit lookup, "Chow Yun-Fat" has 393 profiles, with "Chow Yun Fat" (no dash) another 51.  "Yun-Fat Chow" (which I've never seen him credited) has 136.  "Yun Fat Chow" has only 15.  If the user wants to change to a common name, it should be "Chow Yun-Fat".  The whole first/last name has no basis IMHO and should remain as credited (in this case, as well as most other Asian titles), which usually is family/given.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Correct, Patsa and Synner.

I have not seen any of this, YET. I hope I don't.
Any such assumptions should be voted No and use the Common Name with the lookup Tool. And provide documentation for MOST such changes.

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This is MY FINAL post period,  I am finished. You people are not intelligent enouigh for me to asssit any further in any way. I have had it, someone wants to shut me up with the rutation System, I RIGHT nopw have something close 160 entries, yes that means that someone is voting on ANYTHINGH I say. I'll not go so far as to single users, though it is tempting trust me. I AM absolutely FINISHED, no forum post , no Contributions, no NOTHING, the idiocy of this place is astounding. My data wii now be exclusively MY DATA. There will be a DVDVProfiler that WLIL be the most accurate databaseof its kind in the world, but it will not be Online, that courtesy of a bunch of idiots is an impossible dream, it will be right here in MY COMPUTER. Good bye and GOOD RIDDANCE.

I am sorry I wasted so much time trying help the single most ungrateful bunch of people it has ever been my displeasure to know.

Bye , now.

Skip

Hey Skip,

I thought you quit.  What are you doing here?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I said i would post if I felt it important enough.

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I said i would post if I felt it important enough.
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That's NOT what you said. You said:
"This is MY FINAL post period,  I am finished. You people are not intelligent enouigh for me to asssit any further in any way. I have had it, someone wants to shut me up with the rutation System, I RIGHT nopw have something close 160 entries, yes that means that someone is voting on ANYTHINGH I say. I'll not go so far as to single users, though it is tempting trust me. I AM absolutely FINISHED, no forum post , no Contributions, no NOTHING, the idiocy of this place is astounding."

The fact that you are still allowed to write on this forum just tells us that you are a joke and so is the reputation system. I can write this without any fear of consequences, because if I'll get some "bad bad boy" votes, it doesn't lead anywhere. Eather Ken has double standards what comes in your behaviour, or the sanction limit must be 1000 "no" votes and this forum doesn't have enough active people to give that many votes.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Kulju:

Beside being insulting and baiting.. You missed when i said.

"I will be watching and will ONLY post IF I feel I must."

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Quoting "Liar Liar":
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"I will be watching and will ONLY post IF I feel I must."


28 posts since you "left". About 5 each day. Perhaps you feel you must too much ???
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This thread is important and pinned for a reason. Please don't get it locked.
Achim [諾亞信; Ya-Shin//Nuo], a German in Taiwan.
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I just voted no to a bunch of the attempts to change Chow Yun-Fat's name.  Per the credit lookup, "Chow Yun-Fat" has 393 profiles, with "Chow Yun Fat" (no dash) another 51.  "Yun-Fat Chow" (which I've never seen him credited) has 136.  "Yun Fat Chow" has only 15.  If the user wants to change to a common name, it should be "Chow Yun-Fat".  The whole first/last name has no basis IMHO and should remain as credited (in this case, as well as most other Asian titles), which usually is family/given.


I'm the one trying to fix a bunch of Chow Yun-Fat titles. (Firstname:Yun-Fat Lastname: Chow credited as Chow-Yun Fat) By the voting so far, it seems pretty much a toss up with slightly more 'no's at the moment. I'm still not sure if I should withdraw them and resubmit as Firstname: Chow Last-name: Yun-Fat which has the most entries in the db... Any feedback, any concensus..?

I still think the way I did it is the most logical correct one, it's also the way that is preferred in the poll
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=204599&PageNum=4

Any constructive (non-flaming) feedback is appreciated. 
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I honestly think you should go with whatever common name the lookup tool comes up with until the rules are more clear on asian names (if ever). Making rules outside the rules just makes contributing so complex and cumbersome because you have to look at forum polls, consensus etc. If we want a consistent DB, we gotta keep it simple.
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I just voted no to a bunch of the attempts to change Chow Yun-Fat's name.  Per the credit lookup, "Chow Yun-Fat" has 393 profiles, with "Chow Yun Fat" (no dash) another 51.  "Yun-Fat Chow" (which I've never seen him credited) has 136.  "Yun Fat Chow" has only 15.  If the user wants to change to a common name, it should be "Chow Yun-Fat".  The whole first/last name has no basis IMHO and should remain as credited (in this case, as well as most other Asian titles), which usually is family/given.


I'm the one trying to fix a bunch of Chow Yun-Fat titles. (Firstname:Yun-Fat Lastname: Chow credited as Chow-Yun Fat) By the voting so far, it seems pretty much a toss up with slightly more 'no's at the moment. I'm still not sure if I should withdraw them and resubmit as Firstname: Chow Last-name: Yun-Fat which has the most entries in the db... Any feedback, any concensus..?

I still think the way I did it is the most logical correct one, it's also the way that is preferred in the poll
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=204599&PageNum=4

Any constructive (non-flaming) feedback is appreciated. 

I would fix all your names in your local profile so that Surname = Last name, but don't contribute them to the global database at this time.
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I honestly think you should go with whatever common name the lookup tool comes up with until the rules are more clear on asian names (if ever). Making rules outside the rules just makes contributing so complex and cumbersome because you have to look at forum polls, consensus etc. If we want a consistent DB, we gotta keep it simple.

I agree 
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If the Lookup Tool is considered the holy Oracle, I will withdraw my current contributions, and re-submit the DVD profiles I own containing "Yun-Fat Chow", "Yun Fat Chow" "Chow Yun Fat" "Donald Chow" etc. as "Chow Yun-Fat" (Firstname+Latname) using the Lookup Tool as argument, If that is the way most of you guys feel it should be done.
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If the Lookup Tool is considered the holy Oracle, I will withdraw my current contributions, and re-submit the DVD profiles I own containing "Yun-Fat Chow", "Yun Fat Chow" "Chow Yun Fat" "Donald Chow" etc. as "Chow Yun-Fat" (Firstname+Latname) using the Lookup Tool as argument, If that is the way most of you guys feel it should be done.

Please don't.  I looked at your profile and you have a lot of Hong Kong movies with Chow Yun Fat before he came to Hollywood.  If you want to crosslink your Chow Yun Fat so that every movie he is in shows up , fine, but please leave his name as Yun-Fat Chow in his R0,R3 Hong Kong films.  Lookup tool is not the holy grail for these movies (that's why this thread is a sticky).
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