Quoting TheMadMartian:

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You know, as well as I do that the rules are not specific in this area...

Exactly. And that's been my point the entire time.

Yet some users seem to think it clear cut that T2 is the title here, when there's no reason to come to that specific conclusion. To reach it, one has to make a number of determinations not covered in the rules, and what I've been trying to illustrate is that if we accept that slippery slope, there's no reason we couldn't end up with MIB Men in Black.

In fact, if I had to choose, I'd much prefer MIB Men in Black to T2, at least the former doesn't reduce functionality of the program.

Just because the rules doesn't specifically disallow a particular change doesn't mean we should submit it or even vote yes to it.

Quoting Blair:

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In my opinion at least for this particular example, 'T2' is no more the title of the film than the Batman symbol or Superman shield.

I agree, especially with the Superman comparison. I really see no difference between it and T2. They're both graphical representations of their titles, but they can both be entered into the title field.

Quoting widescreenforever:

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we should be solely using only the 'On screen'  titles and not a company's  artist's & commercialized artwork to sell the product., Credit blocks and On screen titles Only Please ..

I agree with half of what you say.  I've always thought that whatever is "On Screen" should be the number one place to get the title.  I see credit blocks as the only other place to get title info.

Nope, it's Cover Profiler, or maybe Symbol Profiler. 

Quoting xradman:

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Astrakan,

I think you forgot that this is DVD Profiler where you check your common sense at the door. I agree with everything you say completely.  I never really understood why people are so fixated on duplicating the cover art in text when the actual art is right there on the cover image.

This.

Blair and Astrakan need to get out of my head. 

Quoting Astrakan:

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Quoting TheMadMartian:

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You know, as well as I do that the rules are not specific in this area...

Exactly. And that's been my point the entire time.

Yet some users seem to think it clear cut that T2 is the title here, when there's no reason to come to that specific conclusion.

But there is a reason to come to that specific conslusion.  The rules tell us to take the title from the front of the case, and Gerri told us, if it can be reproduce with a standard keyboard, it is what we enter.  'T2' fits both of those conditions so, it seems quite clear to me.

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To reach it, one has to make a number of determinations not covered in the rules, and what I've been trying to illustrate is that if we accept that slippery slope, there's no reason we couldn't end up with MIB Men in Black.

We very well could end up with that but, for the reasons I have already given, I wouldn't enter it that way and I would vote 'no' to any contribution that attempted to make that change.

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In fact, if I had to choose, I'd much prefer MIB Men in Black to T2, at least the former doesn't reduce functionality of the program.

Just because the rules doesn't specifically disallow a particular change doesn't mean we should submit it or even vote yes to it.

In my opinion, the rules do specifically allow for this particular change, which is why it should be submitted and it should get a yes vote.

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Quoting Blair:

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In my opinion at least for this particular example, 'T2' is no more the title of the film than the Batman symbol or Superman shield.

I agree, especially with the Superman comparison. I really see no difference between it and T2. They're both graphical representations of their titles, but they can both be entered into the title field.

Really?  My keyboard does not have the ability to enter the Superman shield...an 'S' inside a diamond shape...so I don't see how it can be entered into the title field.

Quoting surfeur51:

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Quoting Formerly known as...:

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What quite a few people seem to be forgetting here is that the software is called "DVD Profiler" ...

I do not see the point. DVD Profiler allows to collect movies on all supports, including VHS, but is unable to collect DVDs that are not movies (Data, Games, ...)

Sure it is.  I know of someone that uses it for his wine collection.  If he can do that, I am quite sure it can be used for data or game DVDs. 

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As for the title on the DVD cover, I never saw the interest. I never watch plastic pieces with paper, I prefer watch the movies coded inside.

Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on which side you were on, the majority wanted the title to match what they saw in the store and that came from the front cover.  Speaking for myself, I would have prefered that the title come from the spine.  Not only does that usually have the proper title, it has the added benefit of being what I see when I look at the DVDs on my shelf.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Really?  My keyboard does not have the ability to enter the Superman shield...an 'S' inside a diamond shape...so I don't see how it can be entered into the title field.

That's hair-splitting and you know it. There's an S on the cover that you can very well enter. That it's sourrounded by other stuff doesn't matter, most titles on a DVD are sourrounded by other stuff.

Do you know the movie Elf? Where Will Ferell is a stand-in for the L? People don't enter it as E <Will Ferrell> F or even E F. But with a shield surrounding an S it's suddenly un-enterable?

So to bring it full circle, to not just enter S but the full title Superman is a deliberate choice to make this DVD findable and to put something useful in the DVD title field.

Quoting Astrakan:

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Who are you to say the title of the DVD isn't MIB: Men in Black? What do you base that on? Just because the actual title is Men in Black? You've already stated that we're not after the actual title.

Funny, I could have asked you the same question about 'T2'. 

Clearly this discussion has gone as far as it's going to go.  As I said earlier, I have explained it as best I can, those that don't want to see it, won't see it and there is nothing I can do about it.  Such is life.