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This is important because if they buy 1080p, they will find that SD DVDs do not look that great on a 1080p TV without up-converting.

I have to disagree on this point.  My SD DVDs looked pretty darned good on my HD TV.

I think this is probably highly dependent upon equipment.  Id your "full HD TV" 720p, 1080i or 1080p?

On my Sharp Aquos LCD TV, SD DVDs look quite bad with a significant amount of graininess.  If I play the same DVD on my Sony Wega Plasma TV, they look OK; not great but OK.

I am not a technical geek, so I don't know if TV's themselves do any "upscaling" of their own.  If so, you would certainly see signifcantly diffferent results from one TV to another.

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This is important because if they buy 1080p, they will find that SD DVDs do not look that great on a 1080p TV without up-converting.

I have to disagree on this point.  My SD DVDs looked pretty darned good on my HD TV.

I think this is probably highly dependent upon equipment.  Id your "full HD TV" 720p, 1080i or 1080p?

On my Sharp Aquos LCD TV, SD DVDs look quite bad with a significant amount of graininess.  If I play the same DVD on my Sony Wega Plasma TV, they look OK; not great but OK.

I am not a technical geek, so I don't know if TV's themselves do any "upscaling" of their own.  If so, you would certainly see signifcantly diffferent results from one TV to another.

TV's don't usually upscale. And a "Full HD" TV does, by definition, have to be a 1080p TV. Otherwise it wouldn't be Full HD.
if were 720p it would HD Ready. (WXGA Resolution). As far as I know, there are no 1080i TV's out there.

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The British Video Association has revealed sales of Blu-ray discs are up 506% year to date in the United Kingdom, compared to the same period last year. This amounts to nearly one million units. Overall, Blu-ray represents 1.2% of the total market, which is, in total, up 3.3%, an increase led by the success of Blu-ray.

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This is important because if they buy 1080p, they will find that SD DVDs do not look that great on a 1080p TV without up-converting.

I have to disagree on this point.  My SD DVDs looked pretty darned good on my HD TV.

I think this is probably highly dependent upon equipment.  Id your "full HD TV" 720p, 1080i or 1080p?

On my Sharp Aquos LCD TV, SD DVDs look quite bad with a significant amount of graininess.  If I play the same DVD on my Sony Wega Plasma TV, they look OK; not great but OK.

I am not a technical geek, so I don't know if TV's themselves do any "upscaling" of their own.  If so, you would certainly see signifcantly diffferent results from one TV to another.

TV's don't usually upscale. And a "Full HD" TV does, by definition, have to be a 1080p TV. Otherwise it wouldn't be Full HD.
if were 720p it would HD Ready. (WXGA Resolution). As far as I know, there are no 1080i TV's out there.

My parents have a 1080i TV, it does not do 720p or 1080p.

I too used to have a 1080i - one of the first Pioneer Elite CRT 60inch ones.  I think a lot of the first generation high end devices were 1080i...

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That actually proves my point. I just wanted to say that clear again. Blu Ray is indeed the Laserdisc of the 21st century.

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Blu-ray sales in the UK up 500%

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The British Video Association has revealed sales of Blu-ray discs are up 506% year to date in the United Kingdom, compared to the same period last year. This amounts to nearly one million units. Overall, Blu-ray represents 1.2% of the total market, which is, in total, up 3.3%, an increase led by the success of Blu-ray.

That actually proves my point. I just wanted to say that clear again. Blu Ray is indeed the Laserdisc of the 21st century.

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It was estimated that in 1998, laserdisc players were in approximately 2% of US households (roughly two million).[4] By comparison, in 1999, players were in 10% of Japanese households.[5] Laserdisc has been completely replaced by DVD in the North American retail marketplace, as neither players nor software are now produced there. Laserdisc has retained some popularity among American collectors and, to a greater degree, in Japan, where the format was better supported and more prevalent during its life. In Europe, laserdisc has always remained an obscure format.

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Blu-ray sales in the UK up 500%

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The British Video Association has revealed sales of Blu-ray discs are up 506% year to date in the United Kingdom, compared to the same period last year. This amounts to nearly one million units. Overall, Blu-ray represents 1.2% of the total market, which is, in total, up 3.3%, an increase led by the success of Blu-ray.

That actually proves my point. I just wanted to say that clear again. Blu Ray is indeed the Laserdisc of the 21st century.

Well, that settles it, then!   

I mean you don't even have Laserdisc sales numbers for the first 2 years to compare the BD 1.2% total UK video market sales to.  So, what are you comparing the BD numbers to? 

Why do I get the feeling you convinced yourself in spite of the information in this thread? 

Laserdisc's total percentage after 20 years

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It was estimated that in 1998, laserdisc players were in approximately 2% of US households (roughly two million).[4] By comparison, in 1999, players were in 10% of Japanese households.[5] Laserdisc has been completely replaced by DVD in the North American retail marketplace, as neither players nor software are now produced there. Laserdisc has retained some popularity among American collectors and, to a greater degree, in Japan, where the format was better supported and more prevalent during its life. In Europe, laserdisc has always remained an obscure format.

That's around 20 years to get to 2% in the US.  From the quoted section above, one can conclude that Laserdisc's percentage was even less in Europe.

Blu-ray is already past that in the U.S. and Japan at this point...no less 18 years from now.

I'd say it's probably safe to say there has never been anywhere near a 500% growth in Laserdisc sales in the UK during a one year period (maybe in a half decade though).