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General consensus seems to be allowing child profiles for TV box sets, one profile per disc, while still having cast and crew in the parent profile, separated with dividers. 

Users who don't want the child profiles don't download them.  Box sets have an intrinsic automatic lock after first download, so no problem there. 

For those who don't want the cast/crew in the parent profile, they clear it and lock it.

Do I have the summary right?  If so, what are the objections of the dissenters?

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Quoting hal9g:

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Quoting skipnet50:

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And don't try to hide behind the Rules, because frankly, my friend I don't believe you.

Skip

Who's hiding?  The Rules are very clear when it comes to the "rare" cases where boxsets can be used for TV Sets.  There is no interpretation involved.  It is written in plain English!

The "user" community does not have the authority to over-ride the Rules that have been published by Invelos, I don't care how many people are "for it".  And you don't have the authority either, Skip!

Rare, my butt.  When those rules were written maybe it was rare to see a megaboxset.  It sure as hell isn't rare today.  Nearly every multi-season TV show can be had in a megaset of some sort.  Hiding behind out of date rules is simply a waste of time.  There are hundreds, if not thousands, of laws on the books that are no longer enforced because they are anachronisms - they have no relevance to today.  In an ideal world, those laws would be expunged, but this isn't an ideal world.  How about joining the rest of us instead of acting like a Luddite?

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No, it really didn't.  You didn't answer the question about box sets.  There is no tangible difference between a Tv set and a movie set as I described above.  They both can be profiled in essentially the same way.  Cast and Crew is no longer an issue now that we have dividers.  The real issue is calling a boxset a boxset and not arbitrarily saying this one is and that one isn't because the source of the video is different.  By the time it gets to the DVD authoring stage, its just a video file.  You couldn't identify that file to save your life if you had to, just by looking at the file specs - because there is no actual difference!  Any difference is created in our own minds, not in the actual physical object.

I've been in stores all over this country, and in hundreds of online stores, and have not found a single one that calls a TV season set (ie. Stargate, Friends, etc.) anything other than a boxset.  Yes, we've been arguing about this for a year and a half, but only because one side refuses to discuss it in good faith unless the other side knuckles under and goes strictly by the rules.  That is the problem:  the rules are wrong, and you can't have a discussion on the merits of changing those rules if one side says we won't play unless you go by the rules.

So, yes, Ken needs to deal with this, and the sooner the better.  Frankly, I don't understand the problem, because it seems to me that the whole thing would be easier to deal with under one set of revised rules as one entity, instead of treating it as if they were two different animals.

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Totally agree.  Please make Ken fix it ASAP.

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General consensus seems to be allowing child profiles for TV box sets, one profile per disc, while still having cast and crew in the parent profile, separated with dividers. 

Users who don't want the child profiles don't download them.  Box sets have an intrinsic automatic lock after first download, so no problem there. 

For those who don't want the cast/crew in the parent profile, they clear it and lock it.

Do I have the summary right?  If so, what are the objections of the dissenters?

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Actually, Hal..

If you preview the parent profile, you would see the contents under the Box Set section of the preview.

Thus, I would vote to include the children with the parent since they are not automatically downloaded.

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Quoting Ken Cole:

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General consensus seems to be allowing child profiles for TV box sets, one profile per disc, while still having cast and crew in the parent profile, separated with dividers. 

Users who don't want the child profiles don't download them.  Box sets have an intrinsic automatic lock after first download, so no problem there. 

For those who don't want the cast/crew in the parent profile, they clear it and lock it.

Do I have the summary right?  If so, what are the objections of the dissenters?

No objection on my part. I never objected to child profiles being available. My objection was to Skip and Rifter acting like they didn't have to follow the current rules.