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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DarklyNoon: Quote:
Hmm, ok
for me Unrated and Not Rated is the same, seems it is not for the MPAA, anyways, time to lock that feature then 
cheers
Donnie Try to compare it with the German ratings: - FSK 0 - FSK 18 are rated by the Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft (FSK) - SPIO JK, SPIO JK KSJ and SPIO JK SU are in some kind of unrated, because they didn't got a rating by the FSK. (But they got a check of a "Juristen-Kommision" (JK) of the SPIO)* - Movies that are not rated are not checked by the FSK or any kind of JK. Btw, also had to check wikipedia to not forget a point. *Check don't has to be done through the SPIO. All that is checked from another kind of jurist gets just „Juristisch geprüft“ |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | I understand that VirusPil, I just do not agree with it Unrated and Not Rated both mean exactly the same for me. And if I look at the poll, the majority thinks the same But no problem, that is what the lock feature is there for cheers Donnie | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Unrated and NR may be completely different animals at opposite ends of some scale, but I don't see a way in DVDP to distinguish between them. Or am I mssing something? | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | We are waiting for a final decision from Ken on that. He said he could easily add Unrated to the ratings drop-down. But wanted the poll and more discussion. So now we are in wait and see mode (he don't have to upgrade the program for this). | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm not sure adding an "Unrated" rating is the right answer - most of the comments here seem to be against that option.
I'm also unsure that changing the rule to use NR for these titles is the right answer - NR is an unrestricted category and makes filtering based on rating for an audience impossible. Although this is how many were interpreting the old rule, the fact is that it simply didn't cover this scenario and was open to either interpretation.
The option that would seem to capture the most data is to use the rating from the rated version on the disc, as the current rule states. The "Unrated Edition" information is already captured in the edition field. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken...
I don't remember seeing many people at all against the idea of an Unrated and NR in the ratings.
And the problem you talk about... where there is a problem using NR when unrated is there... that it don't filter based on rating for an audience... that is a problem we have had from the start. What about all the unrated discs that don't have a rated version... they don't (and never have) worked for filtering on rating for an audience. So if that is something you want to be able to offer how else can you really do this without having an Unrated and an NR rating? | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | So... time to lock profiles. Thanks. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken:
That makes sense, assuming that it is called Unrated Edition, which may or may not be true, And if it is just an Unrated Edition, with no additional Rated version, now what do we do. Do we go ahead and list NR or what. I think I am still a bit puzzled. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
The option that would seem to capture the most data is to use the rating from the rated version on the disc, as the current rule states. The "Unrated Edition" information is already captured in the edition field. That doesn't cover the situation where the Unrated edition is the only version on the disc, and still needs to be distinguished from the "free for all" Not Rated. | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | To clarify, this discussion is ONLY about titles that are titled "Unrated Edition" or similar, and yet also contain a rated edition. With the current rule: If they don't have a rated edition, they're still NR. If they have a rated edition but don't have "Unrated Edition" or similar in the title, they're a normal rated copy. Quote:
So... time to lock profiles. Thanks. Perhaps I wasn't clear. No decision has been made. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative | | | | Last edited: by Ken Cole |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | So this would involve only those titles that are called Unrated Edition and also contain a rated version. Otherwise we do it the way we always have. This, in reality is probably a very small number of films relatively speaking. That to me sounds like a conditional and is what is causing the confusion.<scratching head> | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
This, in reality is probably a very small number of films relatively speaking. It's a fraction of 1%. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Exactly Ken... they are still NR... meaning as you said "NR is an unrestricted category and makes filtering based on rating for an audience impossible."
I went back on this thread... and only seen one person actively speaking against having both NR and Unrated... the vast majority of those that replied were for having both NR and Unrated ratings.
If you really want to separate NR and Unrated for "filtering for an audience" you don't only have a problem with those that have both the rated version as well as an unrated version on the disc. You have a problem with any and all Unrated versions of movies. They will still filter with the NR... and tell us nothing. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | 1% of the Online is 4800 titles roughly. Is this a conditional which is really necessary, I am not sure that it is. I hate conditionals even when they are necessary, Ken, as I am sure you know, but they are necessary to every database I have ever seen or designed, but unnecessary ones always tend to gum up the works.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
If you really want to separate NR and Unrated for "filtering for an audience" you don't only have a problem with those that have both the rated version as well as an unrated version on the disc. You have a problem with any and all Unrated versions of movies. They will still filter with the NR... and tell us nothing. Yes, but a better solution would be to allow users to assign an age to each NR-rated title locally, and to add theatrical rating as a field. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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