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| Registered: January 11, 2008 |  Posts: 168 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Fine, Rom using my example go right aheda and show Deep Throat to your kids, after all under my hypothetical it would receive Not Rated...the LOWEST rating of all and therefore must be acceptable viewing fare for your children...RIGHT.
Skip If he is adding Unrated as the highest, and NR will stay the lowest. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
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As I understand it, both would be entered in DVDP as "Unrated" (the highest rating).
My understanding is that Ken will be adding an 'Unrated' rating which will give us 'NR', the lowest Profiler rating, and 'Unrated', the higher than 'R' rating.
That's my understanding as well. However, if I'm not mistaken, even if it has "Not Rated" on the back, if it has "Unrated" on the front, then it will be entered in DVDP as "Unrated".
That's one of the things I have a problem with! This is how I understnad it as well... but I personally prefer it this way... because I personally feel if Unrated is anywhere on the cover I would want it as Unrated in profiler. For anything that seems not to fit this way I am willing to wait for a local only fix to say how it should be in the sort/filters. Until then I feel this will give me the closest to what I want. And what I at least believe the majority wants. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | right... the rule about using Adult rating will stop such a thing from happening. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is one i have to disagree with, pete. Unrated in the edition does not a Rating make. IF it says Unrated where we normally look for ratings data, fine, but if Unrated edition says Not Rated where we look for Ratings data then it is NOT Rated. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | As he has it Skip, it says Unrated on the case... so that would be Unrated if it is anywhere on the case. That is why the majority of us voted for if it was on the case | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
Skip of course it will received a NR rating as he got in my collection. But even if I don't like it the "adult" rating place those movies in their own category who make them impossible to be mixed with the kiddie stuff.
Edit : it's about the last post from Skip, we have jumped one page ahead since than. AESP: Not if it says NOT RATED, then it would be mixed right in there will all those lovely G, PG, PG-13 and R rated old TV shows and movies. Of course, we as users would always be free to change it locally to Adult, NC-17 or whatever, but that would be a LOCAL cal;l, which it SHOULD be. You might think Deep Throat is a PG1-3 film, I would probably think you crazy, but that would be YOUR call and not mine, as long as there is no way for you to impose that call upon me. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
As he has it Skip, it says Unrated on the case... so that would be Unrated if it is anywhere on the case. That is why the majority of us voted for if it was on the case That to me, Pete is just another example of creating data not based on data or any real, it is done for the sake of conveninence of some users and inconvenience of others. But then i have watched and seen such things implemented here before, we are becoming increasingly bent towards fictional data and not Hard Data. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Skip... you know I prefer the hard data just as much as you do. But I look at it differently then you... because to me If I see both NR and Unrated (no matter where on the case)... they are both hard data. As I can see it with my own eyes it is there. So the way it is worded... I would have to say Unrated over NR because both is on the cover... and he has it so Unrated would be higher then NR... and have it as highest wins. So that would mean I have to put Unrated. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I just won't go there, pete. It reminds of another argument, look here, look there or somewhere to find the data that you want. I just can't do that pete, I didn't approve of it then and i don't approve of it now. I think they are both the highest rating aside from NC-17 or Full Adult. So the question merely becomes how to create something which will allow for both to be sorted within themselves into the some approproiate categories,. This can be done, without upsetting ANYBODY, it can be a win-win for all, instead of as happens here so often a win-lose. And yes Ken the win-lose mentality is your responsibility. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | @Addicted
See, that's something I don't like the sound of.
Merrik posted a specific example of:
Pulse (UPC 065935-223313). According to the front cover, this profile is an: "Unrated: Widescreen Edition". And according to the back cover, this profile has a distinct Canadian home video rating of 14A: Frightening Scenes, Not Recommended for Young Children.
There is an "Unrated" on the front cover, but the DVD has been rated for the Canadian market. Therefore to label it as Unrated is incorrect. The "Unrated" in this case only refers to the American market. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can't help what you like the sound of Skip... I can only follow any rules as the rules are (or will be) written. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
@Addicted
See, that's something I don't like the sound of.
Merrik posted a specific example of:
Pulse (UPC 065935-223313). According to the front cover, this profile is an: "Unrated: Widescreen Edition". And according to the back cover, this profile has a distinct Canadian home video rating of 14A: Frightening Scenes, Not Recommended for Young Children.
There is an "Unrated" on the front cover, but the DVD has been rated for the Canadian market. Therefore to label it as Unrated is incorrect. The "Unrated" in this case only refers to the American market. All I can say is the majority of people voted that they wanted the highest rating to win when there was more then 1 rating on the case. I personally agree with that. Now if Ken wants to make an exception when it comes to US vs Canadian. The US profile uses Unrated and the Canadian uses the other... that is totally up to him. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | As to Canada, we will not be rolling the new Unrated rating to Canada at this time. We'll see how it works for the US, and get feedback from Canadian users on whether they want it. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken, I don't know what mnemonic you're proposing to use for UNRATED, but can you please avoid "U" , as it will cause much confusion for all us UK folks, who have many R1 as well as the usual R2 DVDs.
FWIW I've currently use "UR" for R1. | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,735 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
As to Canada, we will not be rolling the new Unrated rating to Canada at this time. Good! Because Merrik's example (as just repeated by northbloke) is something that I really would not want to see. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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