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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just updated some profiles including Spiderman 2. 5035822480131 This update removed the DOB for Bruce Campbell and I accepted this cast change - but now checking I find that the DOB remains on this profile in my version on my PC. Is this because he was in 5 films in my collection? I've always thought that if I accepted a change which removed these dob's then that would update the profile to err.. actually remove them.  | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | No, the BYs have to be removed locally as an update could have come from someone who doesn't have that BY in their database rather than someone specifically removing it.
And the Bruce Campbell BY is valid as there is at least one other working in the industry at the moment. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
Just updated some profiles including Spiderman 2.
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This update removed the DOB for Bruce Campbell and I accepted this cast change - but now checking I find that the DOB remains on this profile in my version on my PC.
Is this because he was in 5 films in my collection? I've always thought that if I accepted a change which removed these dob's then that would update the profile to err.. actually remove them.
Best way to remove the the DoB would be to do a Edit on the Actor in question and remove the DoB, else trying via an update will not remove it as you have found due to the other profiles re-entering it. Just open any profile goto cast find Bruce Campbell and remove his DoB. But then again wasn't Bruce Campbell documented for having a BY due to Bruce Campbell 1 - Army of Darkness 2 - Sins of Rachel 3 - The Ghosting 4 - Double Jeopardy 5 - Before I Say Goodbye five different films, five different Bruce Campbell's which would indicate somebody updating Spiderman 2 and possible not having the right B.C. Steve |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok, bad choice of actor. And yes, I do know how to manually remove a DoB. What I didn't know was that if the only change in the cast was DOb then if the change is to remove it, that this will be ignored. wheras an add of DOB always happens. I just wish it was consistent.  | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think Ken deliberately switched off the removal to allow the valid BYs to propogate through the system more effectively.
Hopefully he'll soon switch the ability to remove via an update back on, or introduce an alternative. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 585 |
| | Posted: | | | | As North mentioned, this is by design. Since some people do not seem to care about keeping actors separate, this allows the people who want to track BYs to continue to do so and also allows people who do not want to track the BY to continue to do so without messing up any profiles. Quoting pauls42: Quote:
I just wish it was consistent.
It is consistent. Downloading a profile that adds a BY will add it to your DB. Downloading a profile that is missing a BY will not remove it from your DB. It consistently works that way, so there's no guessing.  | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Vega: Quote:
As North mentioned, this is by design. Since some people do not seem to care about keeping actors separate, this allows the people who want to track BYs to continue to do so and also allows people who do not want to track the BY to continue to do so without messing up any profiles.
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I just wish it was consistent.
It is consistent. Downloading a profile that adds a BY will add it to your DB. Downloading a profile that is missing a BY will not remove it from your DB. It consistently works that way, so there's no guessing. Problem with the BY propogation is that it adds the BY to ALL actors of the same name even though they are different actors. You then have to manually edit each profile that was screwed up creating a new actor of the same name without a BY, remove the actor with the BY and assign the new actor. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 585 |
| | Posted: | | | | True, that definitely is a problem when a new BY is trying to first be established. | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I think Ken deliberately switched off the removal to allow the valid BYs to propogate through the system more effectively.
Hopefully he'll soon switch the ability to remove via an update back on, or introduce an alternative. Thanks. I missed that announcement by ken. | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Vega: Quote:
As North mentioned, this is by design. Since some people do not seem to care about keeping actors separate, this allows the people who want to track BYs to continue to do so and also allows people who do not want to track the BY to continue to do so without messing up any profiles.
So in other words if you don't want to track DOBs then tough cheese. It will overwrite your DB anyway by changing all your actors to have a single (possibly wrong) DOB. I have no problem as such with tracking the different actors - and using a DOB is the clearest way. Its just the way that when you download 1 dob for one film that it then propagates to all the films that name was used on. Which defeats the whole point. Since they are not differentiated. What would have been better would have been if the DOB created a duplicate of the existing actor but with a DOB (if the original was blank) and left all the other films with the original actor with no dob. If the actor / dob which was downloaded already existed in the DB then that should be picked up instead of creating a new actor. this way as updates come down then gradually all the actors are created uniquely with their separate DObs. And the computer is doing ALL the hard work. Why have a computer and then do all the tedious data matching yourself?  | | | | Paul |
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