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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Posted by Bill Hunt (Some of you may take this with a grain of salt) Quote:
So here's a pisser... Universal's new DVD/HD-DVD combo format release of Ridley Scott's American Gangster contains both the 158-minute theatrical cut AND the 177-minute extended cut, right? But here's what sucks... the extended cut is only on the DVD side, and the theatrical version on the HD side only has Dolby Digital Plus audio. What's more, overcompression is an issue on both sides, obviously due to lack of disc space. Ugh. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's okay, the reviews I've read have all agreed that the extended cut is just that...extended. It's just superfluous fat. Does anybody really believe that Ridley Scott can't release the movie that fulfills his vision?  |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think the point here is, you're getting it in SD and not HD. Many may not like that decision. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 585 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree that's the point and at first I thought that was pretty lame, but then I started reading up on Ridley Scott. He apparently has enough clout in the business that what you see in the theatres is the Director's Cut. It's his vision of the movie. He genuinely does not like extended cuts of his movies as those scenes were cut for a reason. He had the same reaction to the extended cut for Gladiator. If you have it, it's kind of amusing to watch his intro to the Extended Cut because he's visibly agitated and flat out says "This is not the Director's Cut of the movie, you've already seen it if you saw it in the theatres".
Anyway, I'm still on the fence about whether I'll be picking this one up since it's one of the remaining few HD DVD exclusives. I heard some rumors that a Blu-ray version of this may be coming out in March. If that's true then I may wait.. anyone know if that's true or not? | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Vega: Quote:
I agree that's the point and at first I thought that was pretty lame, but then I started reading up on Ridley Scott. He apparently has enough clout in the business that what you see in the theatres is the Director's Cut. It's his vision of the movie. He genuinely does not like extended cuts of his movies as those scenes were cut for a reason. He had the same reaction to the extended cut for Gladiator. If you have it, it's kind of amusing to watch his intro to the Extended Cut because he's visibly agitated and flat out says "This is not the Director's Cut of the movie, you've already seen it if you saw it in the theatres".
Anyway, I'm still on the fence about whether I'll be picking this one up since it's one of the remaining few HD DVD exclusives. I heard some rumors that a Blu-ray version of this may be coming out in March. If that's true then I may wait.. anyone know if that's true or not? There is no Blu-ray version in March, since they aren't releasing Blu-rays...yet. As for Ridley Scott, there are occasions were the later, longer cut is his preferred version. For example, "Kingdom of Heaven." That's why it is called a Director's Cut, whereas "Gladiator," "American Gangster" and "Blackhawk Down" are Extended Cuts. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pplchamp: Quote:
Posted by Bill Hunt (Some of you may take this with a grain of salt)
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So here's a pisser... Universal's new DVD/HD-DVD combo format release of Ridley Scott's American Gangster contains both the 158-minute theatrical cut AND the 177-minute extended cut, right? But here's what sucks... the extended cut is only on the DVD side, and the theatrical version on the HD side only has Dolby Digital Plus audio. What's more, overcompression is an issue on both sides, obviously due to lack of disc space. Ugh. Thanks. This just fell off my Maybe List.  | | | ...James
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 460 |
| | Posted: | | | | @synner That is probably why it is a rumor. Remember that it was a rumor that Warner would go Blu exclusive? Well eventually that became true, not saying that American Gangster will be released on Blu, because of their HD DVD exclusitivity at this moment  | | | | Jean-Paul | | | | Last edited: by Zoeper |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | HD DVD has done plenty of films of that length with both TrueHD and extras on the same disc without problem so if there's a fault with the HD transfer, it's not disc related. Now why Universal thinks Dolby Digital Plus is good enough for this release is another matter, or why they still think we need combos... | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 175 |
| | Posted: | | | | This is no worse than Fox releasing Die Hard 4 in Blu-ray with the PG-13 version and the unrated in DVD. | | | | Gotta nip it in the bud, Andy! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,911 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Overseer: Quote:
This is no worse than Fox releasing Die Hard 4 in Blu-ray with the PG-13 version and the unrated in DVD. Sorta agree, but, it's not the same. Is HD DVD putting that the extended edition in available on the cover without stating it is on the DVD side? That would mean it's not the same as buying the Blu of DH4, you never got the unrated version on a DVD. | | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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