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Toshiba to pull the plug? (HD-DVD Deathwatch) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: We're not exactly sure what's going on in Toshiba land, but shortly after not-exactly-believable whispers made the rounds of the firm suddenly deciding to try its hand at making a Blu-ray player, we're now seeing reports stating that it will pull the plug on its beloved format "in the coming weeks." Citing unnamed industry "sources," The Hollywood Reporter is suggesting that the end may be nigh for the HD DVD format. Jodi Sally, VP of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products, was quoted as saying that "given the market developments in the past month, Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of its recent price reductions on all HD DVD players." Of course, we aren't exactly equating said statement to waving the white flag or anything, but whatever the case, it seems the death watch is in full effect. EngadgetHDThe Hollywood Reporter | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,339 |
| Posted: | | | | Erik - You beat me to the punch again... you should add... "HD-DVD Deathwatch" to the title Home Media Magazine has also reported the same situation...Quote:
The format war has turned into a format death watch.
Toshiba is widely expected to pull the plug on its HD DVD format sometime in the coming weeks, reliable industry sources say, after a rash of retail defections that followed Warner Home Video’s stunning announcement in early January that it would only support the rival Blu-ray Disc format after May.
Officially, no decision has been made, insists Jodi Sally, VP of marketing for Toshiba America Consumer Products. “Based on its technological advancements, we continue to believe HD DVD is the best format for consumers, given the value and consistent quality inherent in our player offerings,” she said.
But she hinted that something’s in the air. “Given the market developments in the past month,” she said, “Toshiba will continue to study the market impact and the value proposition for consumers, particularly in light of our recent price reductions on all HD DVD players.”
Immediately after the Warner announcement, the HD DVD North American Promotional Group canceled its Consumer Electronics Show presentation. The following week, data collected by The NPD Group gave Blu-ray 93% of all hardware sales for that week.
Toshiba subsequently fired back by drastically cutting its HD DVD player prices by as much as half, effective Jan. 15. But a hoped-for consumer sales surge never materialized; retail point-of-sale data collected by The NPD Group for the week ending Jan. 26 still showed Blu-ray Disc players ahead by a wide margin, 65% to 28%.
Software sales have declined as well. The latest Nielsen VideoScan First Alert sales data show the top-selling Blu-ray Disc title for the week, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment’s Across the Universe, sold more than three times as many copies the week ending Feb. 10 as the top HD DVD seller, Universal Studios Home Entertainment’s Elizabeth: The Golden Age. Blu-ray Disc titles also accounted for 81% of all high-def disc sales for the week, with HD DVD at just 19%.
Toshiba had been pitching its discounted HD DVD players toward the standard DVD crowd as well as high-def enthusiasts, noting in its ad message that the new players would make DVDs look a lot better as well. And as a last-ditch effort the company ran an ad during the Super Bowl — a 30-second spot that reportedly cost $2.7 million.
But in the end, sources say, the substantial loss Toshiba is incurring with each HD DVD player sold — a figure sources say could be as high as several hundred dollars — coupled with a series of high-profile retail defections, have driven the company to at last concede defeat.
“An announcement is coming soon,” said one source close to the HD DVD camp. “It would be a matter of weeks.”
Microsoft is the other big player in the HD DVD equation; when Paramount Home Entertainment last fall announced it was dropping its dual-format strategy and would release titles only in HD DVD, giving that side a brief resurgence, a pitch to journalists for interviews came from a Microsoft email address.
Several phone calls to Kevin Collins, Microsoft’s normally accessible “HD DVD evangelist,” were not returned. Nor were calls to Ken Graffeo, the Universal Studios Home Entertainment executive who doubles as co-president of the HD DVD North American Promotional Group.
When Warner abandoned HD DVD in January, the format was left with just two of the six major studios, Universal Studios Home Entertainment and Paramount Home Entertainment, backing it. Blu-ray support among independents is rising. ADV Films, Tai Seng Entertainment, Topics Entertainment and National Geographic have all confirmed they are going Blu-ray exclusive, while more than one indie that was releasing titles just on HD DVD, including Surround Records and Opus Arte, will now offer Blu-ray as well.
This week, two key retailers, Best Buy and Netflix Inc., both got off the fence and threw their support behind Blu-ray exclusively, citing widespread studio support and consumer preference. Both companies said Warner’s decision was a turning point in their strategies.
“We’ve listened to our customers, and we are responding,” said Best Buy president and COO Brian Dunn.
Netflix spokesperson Steve Swasey said it appeared the format war had been won by Blu-ray for the benefit of everyone.
“We wanted to put an exclamation point behind that,” he said.
Industry observers are closely watching Amazon, but there’s been no movement, other than a 50% off sale for 150 HD DVD titles, including Transformers, Zodiac and Stardust.
Blockbuster Inc. last summer already decided to offer only Blu-ray Disc titles at its company-owned rental stores.
Chris Tribbey, Home Media Magazine senior reporter, contributed to this report.
and of course... Bill Hunt over at the bits as also picked up the story, and added Quote:
Hang tight, folks. This thing could soon be officially over. Either way, it's certainly getting interesting (as if it wasn't already fascinating enough). Stay tuned... | | | -JoN |
| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,917 |
| Posted: | | | | What's even scarier is that Microsoft isn't pushing HD-DVD. |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,339 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks Erik!! | | | -JoN |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
| Posted: | | | | Welcome | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,339 |
| Posted: | | | | very dignified...
bye bye hd-dvd | | | -JoN | | | Last edited: by ruineddaydreams |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 460 |
| Posted: | | | | After my skiing trip I'll be on Amazon.com Oh and not for HD DVDs that is | | | Jean-Paul |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,339 |
| Posted: | | | | side note: Engadget has just made this an "official engadget deathwatch" | | | -JoN |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,339 |
| Posted: | | | | it'd be nice if we could get a release date... those might be left over upc's / skus from before paramount defected. | | | -JoN |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,911 |
| Posted: | | | | The CC employee that took the pics on his cell said that they were recently put back in the system and there is no release date(s) which would mean they are "immediatelt available". He also said that "Shooter" was showing "in stock" even though they didn't have any.
I'd say keep an eye on the CC website in the coming days. Rumor is that atleast Blades of Glory, Top Gun, Jack Ryan Collection and Transformers have been sitting in a warehouse with other previously released ttitles. | | | Signature banned: Reason out of date... |
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