Hello all

At the risk of opening the proverbial can o' worms I would like to ask whether we could request a revision of the rules regarding Partial Contributions.

As I am sure you are all aware Geri closed the Partial Contributions thread with this statement:
"Just to add my 2 cents worth... I was out of town most of last week, so I am a little late to the party...

If you only have a partial cast list, there is nothing in the rules to stop you from sending that in for a contribution. It seems perfectly reasonable to me - perhaps you only have time to get partially through the credits."

This obviously resolved the issue at hand...but, I am concerned that this decision could be 'lost' after a while and subsequently forgotten.

Do people feel that the rules need to be revised to categorically state the it is acceptable to submit partial data within a field - and that voting NO to this data would be wrong?

The only reason I am rehashing this is because there were a lot of people on both sides of the recent debate who felt strongly; and it would be good to avoid a similar situation in the future.

Personally I feel that now partial contributions have been clarified there should be no further debates along the lines of Bewitched; but, as always, a statement in the rules would be best.

How do you all feel?

Yes, I also agree. And an arrow up from me too.

But maybe because she said "there is nothing in the rules to stop you from sending a partial cast list in for a contribution" it will not be necessary.

I personally would always rather see a rules revision then not. For more then one reason.... all those that you mentioned as well as the fact that I could forget if it is not in the rules. (as you touched on also).... but also for the plain fact that no one has to come read the forum to contribute..  but they do have to read the rules. And since it can be read the way I was reading it... I definitely think it should be mentioned in the rules.

Neil:

I Think you are going the wrong direction here. There does not need to be Rules mod for Partial contributions. What is needed is a Rules Mod to allow us to reflect the Episodic data accurately relative to shows such as Bewitched, which uses BOTH opening and closing credits, and sometimes the END credits do not match the opening credits because one ot more of the three principals may not be involved in a given episode,

Skip

Quoting skipnet50:

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There does not need to be Rules mod for Partial contributions. What is needed is a Rules Mod to allow us to reflect the Episodic data accurately relative to shows such as Bewitched, which uses BOTH opening and closing credits, and sometimes the END credits do not match the opening credits because one ot more of the three principals may not be involved in a given episode,

I agree that it would be desirable that the rules should be clarified regarding episodic data. But I also think that a rules clarification regarding partial contributions would be useful, as there seems to be some confusion there as well.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Neil:

I Think you are going the wrong direction here. There does not need to be Rules mod for Partial contributions. What is needed is a Rules Mod to allow us to reflect the Episodic data accurately relative to shows such as Bewitched, which uses BOTH opening and closing credits, and sometimes the END credits do not match the opening credits because one ot more of the three principals may not be involved in a given episode,

Skip

Upon further thought I think we're both right.

I think there does need to be a note regarding Partial Contributions simply because there were many people who said they would vote NO to incomplete fields - thereby keeping good data out of the online.

But, also the standard/non-standard rules need clarification to cover instances such as Bewitched.

Two separate issues that are linked, admittedly, but need to be clear to ALL users.

Quoting skipnet50:

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Neil:

I Think you are going the wrong direction here. There does not need to be Rules mod for Partial contributions. What is needed is a Rules Mod to allow us to reflect the Episodic data accurately relative to shows such as Bewitched, which uses BOTH opening and closing credits, and sometimes the END credits do not match the opening credits because one ot more of the three principals may not be involved in a given episode,

Skip

I think your focus is far to narrow here.  Yes, the 'Bewitched' situation needs to be addressed, but  Gerri's statement covers a lot more.  It means that a person can submit the first 5, 10, etc. entries in the cast list and be done with it.  From this point forward, nobody has to enter a complete cast list if they do not feel like doing so.

While I don't agree with it, the rules do need to be ammended to reflect this policy.

Quoting skipnet50:

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What is needed is a Rules Mod to allow us to reflect the Episodic data accurately relative to shows such as Bewitched, which uses BOTH opening and closing credits, and sometimes the END credits do not match the opening credits because one ot more of the three principals may not be involved in a given episode,

Skip

Are you saying we shouldn't credit a cast member, who is credited in the opening credits, but not in the actual episode?