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Next PS3 update brings DTS HD MA and DTS HD HRA suport to the PS3
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Hey Everyone! We know you’re all patiently waiting for the next PS3 firmware update, ver. 2.30, which includes the revamped PLAYSTATION Store. The good news is that it’s coming soon, and you can now see how the new user interface will look in this video demo featuring Grace Chen.



I have more good news to report today – the system software update will also add DTS-HD Master Audio output for Blu-ray videos, which means the high-definition visuals of Blu-ray will now be matched with the highest quality audio for the ultimate movie-watching experience on PS3.

DTS-HD Master Audio is literally bit-for-bit identical to the studio master recording and makes movie soundtracks and sound effects truly come to life. The technology delivers audio at the incredibly high rate of 24.5 mega-bits per second (Mbps) on Blu-ray disc, which is significantly higher than standard DVDs. DTS-HD Master Audio also offers 7.1 audio channels at 96k sampling frequency/24 bit depths, so you’ll be totally immersed in the sound. The firmware update will add DTS-HD High Resolution Audio as well, which is a similar output technology that requires less disc space. You can read more about both codecs here.

A lot of you, particularly the home theatre enthusiasts and audiophiles out there, have been asking us for this capability, and we can’t wait until you have an opportunity to pop in a compatible Blu-ray video to test it out for yourself.

Source: Playtstation Blog
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That will be nice to have DTS MA finally!  So far the only DTA MA title I've watched is Mr. Magorium with the kids.  I've been holding off on the others waiting on this update.
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The V2.30 update is online. The new store looks real nice!
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It can already decode True HD. But only via PCM. It will never be able to output either DTS HD or True HD via Bitstream. Which is actually important for me because I want my receiver to say "True HD" or "DTS HD" and not just "Multichannel".. (doesn't look as cool)!
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It can already decode True HD. But only via PCM. It will never be able to output either DTS HD or True HD via Bitstream. Which is actually important for me because I want my receiver to say "True HD" or "DTS HD" and not just "Multichannel".. (doesn't look as cool)!


My receiver wants bitstream too! I am clearly getting the 7.1 now, but it is strange in that the usual little graphic doesn't light up for each of the speakers. Being the fanatic that I am I went about the room and listened to each speaker individually. They are clearly getting seperate signals - different sounds come from each. Funny how it works though with no graphic display...
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What advantage is there to having the receiver decode the audio as opposed to letting the player do it? I have a Yamaha HDMI 1.1 receiver, and the multi-channel uncompressed PCM from the player sounds pretty darn awesome to me.
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What advantage is there to having the receiver decode the audio as opposed to letting the player do it? I have a Yamaha HDMI 1.1 receiver, and the multi-channel uncompressed PCM from the player sounds pretty darn awesome to me.

There is no audio reason - bit for bit lossless quality sound either way and using the bitstream has the potential to LOSE capability of Blu-ray disc soundtracks authored in Advanced mode, where they cannot be transmitted in undecoded form because of live mixing.

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Bob, we have to stop meeting like this!

I also have a Yamaha receiver which does the HDMI 1.1 standard (RX-V1600).

I was fiddling with the various setups (after the new update) on the PS-s and my receiver to see if it made any difference how I set things. I enabled virtually all the signal outputs via HDMI on the PS-3 to see which would make it through on my receiver which is a 7.1 unit.

On my display there are icons or whatever you want to call them for each speaker including the sub woofer. When I transmit DTS 5.1 via bit stream I get all the lights that reflect the signal. when I just let it flow through the receiver and 7.1 is highlighted, I don't get the lights on my receiver, but clearly get all 7.1 speakers working.

It's kinda weird to me, but what I have chosen to believe for the sake of my peace of mind is that when the PS-3 does the decoding and the signal comes through via HDMI the receiver appears to be just letting it go out to the speakers as received, no altering to the coding other than anything you may add with the equalizer on the receiver itself for your sound preference.

Bottom line, pretty well any sound mode sounds phenomenal, I just like to hear different chirps from each speaker after going to all the trouble of putting them up!
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The PS3 detects what sound options are available on the receiving end through the HDMI cable so it may not be a good idea to enable what was disabled.
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I also have a Yamaha receiver which does the HDMI 1.1 standard (RX-V1600).

LOL That is my receiver as well, although I am only using it as 5.1. My room does not realy lend itself to 7.1.  It's still a heck of a receiver IMHO, even after 2 years, but it won't decode Tru HD DD+ or DTS HD on its own. I was just curious if having an HDMI 1.3 receiver that can results in a different, or better result if those higher quality audio tracks were decoded by the receiver and not the source machine. Thanks Paul for setting my mind at ease regarding this.

No PS3 for me... I am using the LG BH200 combo unit which kicks major tail with the current beta firmwmre...it decodes EVERYTHING into uncompressed PCM, unlike the Samsung combo unit which I bought and returned after only one day. It would only decode HD audio into stereo. I almost threw it through the window and off the balcony. 
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Bob, we have to stop meeting like this!

I also have a Yamaha receiver which does the HDMI 1.1 standard (RX-V1600).

I was fiddling with the various setups (after the new update) on the PS-s and my receiver to see if it made any difference how I set things. I enabled virtually all the signal outputs via HDMI on the PS-3 to see which would make it through on my receiver which is a 7.1 unit.

On my display there are icons or whatever you want to call them for each speaker including the sub woofer. When I transmit DTS 5.1 via bit stream I get all the lights that reflect the signal. when I just let it flow through the receiver and 7.1 is highlighted, I don't get the lights on my receiver, but clearly get all 7.1 speakers working.

It's kinda weird to me, but what I have chosen to believe for the sake of my peace of mind is that when the PS-3 does the decoding and the signal comes through via HDMI the receiver appears to be just letting it go out to the speakers as received, no altering to the coding other than anything you may add with the equalizer on the receiver itself for your sound preference.

Bottom line, pretty well any sound mode sounds phenomenal, I just like to hear different chirps from each speaker after going to all the trouble of putting them up!


Nice post! it made me grin in a selfrecognizing way 
I can hardly wait for my Onkyo TX 605 to ariive so I can, too, hear all those nice chirps from my speakers in maximum quality 
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It's not true that there is no reason for letting the receiver decode the signal.

Actually according to any magazine I ever read it's a lot better for the player to send it in bitstream and have the receiver decode it.
I have a HD-DVD Player too. Even if they signal is DTS HD is does sound nowhere as nice as the Blu Rays sound. With my HD-DVD Player the player decodes it and sends it via PCM to the Receiver. The same way a playstation 3 does it.

As I said. According to most magazines it is best to have a clean bitstream signal that is decoded by the receiver.
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BTW: My Receiver is a Onkyo 605. 
I tried it at my company with various receivers. Like the Yamaha 663 and the Onkyo 875. It always sounds better as a bitstream signal.
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