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What is the Best Way to Scan Reflective Silver or Gold covers?
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My scanner, as good as it is, cannot copy foil covers very well.. ( there goes my idea for scanning the new $20's)..,,  and I don't own Photo Shop Pro.,
so what is the Best way to scan these covers that are coming out more and more each week with highly Reflective foil???
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I didn't find any scanner to cope with the silver and gold plates. - But I found a Ricoh Xerox machine which works for me. - Rather large thing (color copying, printing, scanning and e-mailing) which is only found in large offices. But it delivers a really good base for any further improvement...

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Maybe the best way is not to scan it at all but to take a picture of it with a digital camera.  I just bought a new camera and am planning to get one of those close-up lighting boxes advertized in Cyber Guys and Hammacher Schlemmer (as Tabletop Photo Studio) which provide backdrops and lights from 2 sides (to eliminate shadows) for another application.  I plan to experiment with photographing DVD covers to see if that's a better way to get good images of reflective covers than scanning.

I remember someone quite a while ago saying that the best way to get a good image was with a camera rather than with a scanner, so the idea isn't original with me.
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Maybe the best way is not to scan it at all but to take a picture of it with a digital camera.  I just bought a new camera and am planning to get one of those close-up lighting boxes advertized in Cyber Guys and Hammacher Schlemmer (as Tabletop Photo Studio) which provide backdrops and lights from 2 sides (to eliminate shadows) for another application.  I plan to experiment with photographing DVD covers to see if that's a better way to get good images of reflective covers than scanning.

I remember someone quite a while ago saying that the best way to get a good image was with a camera rather than with a scanner, so the idea isn't original with me.


I bought one of those, but have not used it yet.

THIS is the one I bought...
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Maybe the best way is not to scan it at all but to take a picture of it with a digital camera.  I just bought a new camera and am planning to get one of those close-up lighting boxes advertized in Cyber Guys and Hammacher Schlemmer (as Tabletop Photo Studio) which provide backdrops and lights from 2 sides (to eliminate shadows) for another application.  I plan to experiment with photographing DVD covers to see if that's a better way to get good images of reflective covers than scanning.

I remember someone quite a while ago saying that the best way to get a good image was with a camera rather than with a scanner, so the idea isn't original with me.


The problem with photographing DVD covers, other than getting the proper lighting, is barrel distortion. It's a lot more work than what it's worth IMO, believe me. I did a lot of covers with my Sony DSC-F707 before I finally broke down and got my scanner. Not too may were approved btw.
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Terry:

I can only offer this. Good luck, terry. If you are caught or killed by any Hollywood Studios the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions. The Cover will NOT self-destruct in 5 seconds.

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8ball's right, cameras are tough.  I've tried photographing a number of covers.  Only one was good enough to even think of submitting and it was voted down.

What i wonder about the light boxes is...how do you keep the %$#^$# covers flat without pressing them between glass panes which add their own reflective issues.
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8ball's right, cameras are tough.  I've tried photographing a number of covers.  Only one was good enough to even think of submitting and it was voted down.

What i wonder about the light boxes is...how do you keep the %$#^$# covers flat without pressing them between glass panes which add their own reflective issues.

Oh well, it was just a thought.  I'll defer to people with experience on this.  Thanks, guys.
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What i wonder about the light boxes is...how do you keep the %$#^$# covers flat without pressing them between glass panes which add their own reflective issues.

You could tape them down using double-sided tape
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I've been told putting the case inside a 'lamination pouch' works (though I don't really know what these are!) and can confirm I did find a piece of polythene over the cover does help with the scan... but in my case the polythene had a couple of creases in and these came out very obviously so I'm still on the lookout for something that I can use that will work!
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I've been told putting the case inside a 'lamination pouch' works (though I don't really know what these are!) and can confirm I did find a piece of polythene over the cover does help with the scan... but in my case the polythene had a couple of creases in and these came out very obviously so I'm still on the lookout for something that I can use that will work!


plastic sheets to put paper in between and heatseal it in between (laminating)
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I've been told putting the case inside a 'lamination pouch' works (though I don't really know what these are!) and can confirm I did find a piece of polythene over the cover does help with the scan... but in my case the polythene had a couple of creases in and these came out very obviously so I'm still on the lookout for something that I can use that will work!


Lamination sheets or pouches do help in a pinch but they also have their drawbacks as they can add a substantial amount of "noise" to the image. After scanning with a lamination sheet, it could take hours just to clean up the image enough for contribution. I only use them in extreme cases such as reflective TV box sets where there is no keepcase art to fallback on.
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I've been told putting the case inside a 'lamination pouch' works (though I don't really know what these are!) and can confirm I did find a piece of polythene over the cover does help with the scan... but in my case the polythene had a couple of creases in and these came out very obviously so I'm still on the lookout for something that I can use that will work!


Lamination sheets or pouches do help in a pinch but they also have their drawbacks as they can add a substantial amount of "noise" to the image. After scanning with a lamination sheet, it could take hours just to clean up the image enough for contribution. I only use them in extreme cases such as reflective TV box sets where there is no keepcase art to fallback on.

And make sure that the lamination sheet or pouch you get doesn't have a pattern to it.  The pouches I have on hand have a cross-hatch pattern to them which showed up quite well when I experimented with scanning a shiny cover.  I got an improved scan, all right, except it looked like I scanned it through a window screen.
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Nice to see that they are lots of replies,, but no one has addressed my problem  including
eric and mcellophane  .., Where are you guys ?.,  It's your past image's that I am inquiring about..   

The HDD of HULK  has some beautiful scans in place right now., ( By either Eric or James ), But I just finally got my five  free HD discs ( the Toshiba promo).., and the HULK HDDVD is Canadian as there is dual languages on front and rear jacket for overview, so I was going to scan and recontribute theses covers for new locality  but am stymied at this point as I can't get this scan done right.   

So I would like to know what others are currently doing to get these done without laminated pouches and Digital picture kits ..
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What i wonder about the light boxes is...how do you keep the %$#^$# covers flat without pressing them between glass panes which add their own reflective issues.

Shouldn't be a Problem here, since the question concerns box sets or at least slip covers; Keep cases can be scanned anyways...

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Shouldn't be a Problem here, since the question concerns box sets or at least slip covers; Keep cases can be scanned anyways...

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I don't think the topic is limited to boxes.  I've got waaay to many reflective BD and HD covers.  I often wonder if the reflectiveness wasn't added just to try our patience.

And slip case and boxes can be scanned also, i do it all the time  (so long as they aren't the reflective kind  )
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