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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantandrewmk
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Well I'm feeling in the mood for a rant.......

Well DVD's have been around for more than a year or two now (as have widescreen TV's) so you'd think the studios were well past the point of pushing out crappy DVD transfers.

In the last few months I have unwittingly (well, ok - it was my fault for not checking) bought 3 DVD's that were either 4:3 or letterboxed (non-anamorphic) widescreen transfers.  The 3 offending items are Muriels Wedding (4:3), The Arrival (4:3) and I Know What You Did Last Summer (non-anamorphic) -- all Region 2.

Yeah, I should have checked the back of the box - it's not like the information wasn't there.  It's just that these days I've come to expect anamorphic transfers as a matter of course.  I'll probably end up buying all 3 films again when they are re-released as 'Special Editiions'.  More fool me, I guess 

Ok, rant over.....    

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I rarely believe what the cover says. It frequently doesn't bare any resemblance to what's on the dvd. It still shocks me to this day, how inaccurate they are. Surely the idiots actually check the content of the dvd against the cover. But obviously not. I've even written to a couple of studio's about this. Never got a reply so they obviously don't give a crap either. Personally, I'd fire anyone who made a more than 3 mistakes on dvd covers.

I've had ones that say 'widescreen' (typically therefore non-anamorphic), which are anamorphic. I've had ones listed as 'anamorphic' which aren't.

And don't get me started on audio.

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Well I'm feeling in the mood for a rant.......

Well DVD's have been around for more than a year or two now (as have widescreen TV's) so you'd think the studios were well past the point of pushing out crappy DVD transfers.



it still seems there is a demand for crappy dvds in America by some who don't understand wide-screen formats and Studios wanting to save money etc etc.
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Well I'm feeling in the mood for a rant.......

Well DVD's have been around for more than a year or two now (as have widescreen TV's) so you'd think the studios were well past the point of pushing out crappy DVD transfers.

Yeah, I should have checked the back of the box - it's not like the information wasn't there.  It's just that these days I've come to expect anamorphic transfers as a matter of course.  I'll probably end up buying all 3 films again when they are re-released as 'Special Editiions'.  More fool me, I guess 

Ok, rant over.....    

Andrew


An excellent rant! Nothing ticks me off more than when I mistakenly get a 4:3 movie in amongst my purchases. Yeah, I know I should be more careful but dammit, I just plain miss it now and then - I give them to my kids or my wife... they could care less!

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In the last few months I have unwittingly (well, ok - it was my fault for not checking) bought 3 DVD's that were either 4:3 or letterboxed (non-anamorphic) widescreen transfers.  The 3 offending items are Muriels Wedding (4:3), The Arrival (4:3) and I Know What You Did Last Summer (non-anamorphic) -- all Region 2.

Yeah, I should have checked the back of the box - it's not like the information wasn't there.  It's just that these days I've come to expect anamorphic transfers as a matter of course.  I'll probably end up buying all 3 films again when they are re-released as 'Special Editiions'.  More fool me, I guess 

Ok, rant over.....         Andrew



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Well I'm feeling in the mood for a rant.......

Well DVD's have been around for more than a year or two now (as have widescreen TV's) so you'd think the studios were well past the point of pushing out crappy DVD transfers.



it still seems there is a demand for crappy dvds in America by some who don't understand wide-screen formats and Studios wanting to save money etc etc.


If what the OP bought were all region 2 releases, why must you blame it on American's?
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Well I'm feeling in the mood for a rant.......

Well DVD's have been around for more than a year or two now (as have widescreen TV's) so you'd think the studios were well past the point of pushing out crappy DVD transfers.

In the last few months I have unwittingly (well, ok - it was my fault for not checking) bought 3 DVD's that were either 4:3 or letterboxed (non-anamorphic) widescreen transfers.  The 3 offending items are Muriels Wedding (4:3), The Arrival (4:3) and I Know What You Did Last Summer (non-anamorphic) -- all Region 2.

Yeah, I should have checked the back of the box - it's not like the information wasn't there.  It's just that these days I've come to expect anamorphic transfers as a matter of course.  I'll probably end up buying all 3 films again when they are re-released as 'Special Editiions'.  More fool me, I guess 

Ok, rant over.....    

Andrew


Good lord, man, everyone of these titles are YEARS old ( and I do mean YEARS we are talking 8-10 years ago) and have not yet been re-released. Now why did you buy them...because the price was righ...you got all of them cheaply. So you have no reason to rant. The fact that you got them cheaply might indicate two possibilities (1) the titles are OOP and once gone they are gone...for now at least or (2) drastic priice reductions are also a common way to clear the shelves in preparation for a new release.

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Well DVD's have been around for more than a year or two now (as have widescreen TV's) so you'd think the studios were well past the point of pushing out crappy DVD transfers.
Apparently not. One new example is the german release in this week of Zabriskie Point in 4:3.
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what do they mean by this?
"Zabriskie Point"
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4:3 Aspect Ratio
16X9 enhanced
Average Bitrate: 8.12 mb/s
PAL 720x576 25.00 f/s

seems to contradict it self?
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Good lord, man, everyone of these titles are YEARS old ( and I do mean YEARS we are talking 8-10 years ago) and have not yet been re-released. Now why did you buy them...because the price was righ...you got all of them cheaply. So you have no reason to rant. The fact that you got them cheaply might indicate two possibilities (1) the titles are OOP and once gone they are gone...for now at least or (2) drastic priice reductions are also a common way to clear the shelves in preparation for a new release.

Skip


Well, I did admit that the mistake was mine for not checking the technical details.  And the reason I bought them was 'cos I wanted them as, in my opinion, they are oldies but goodies.    It's not necessarily so that old films are bad transfers just as it's not the case that not all new releases are great transfers.    So I was sloppy in not checking.  My point was I kinda assumed, wrongly, that we were past the point of having to check for these things.  I admit it    But maybe the studios are being sloppy too -- none of those titles were out of print as was suggested.

Anyway, I've learned to be more cautious from now on.

Andrew
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My point was I kinda assumed, wrongly, that we were past the point of having to check for these things.

Yeah, but since (as Skip pointed out) these DVDs (not the movies) are old releases and haven't bee re-released since they first came out 8ish years ago, you still have to check just like you did when those exact releases came out back then.

I know it's not easy to know release dates for all movies out there, just pointing out that the passage of time won't automatically make old releases better.

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Muriel's Wedding was released June 2006 - not exactly an "old release".
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Not OROGINALLY and i thinlk that was the marked down release for the same UPC#. If it was re-releaed in some other form then it would have a NEW UPC. Nice try. In point of fact, that version of Muriels' Wedding was released in 2003, with  an anamorphic presentation of 1.85 :1, it was re-released via markdown in 2006. But neither of those were the ORIGINAL release for Muriel's Wedding and would not likely be the one he picked up.


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What are you on about?
Muriel's Wedding has never had a widescreen release in R2 UK.
In fact, out of the whole of R2 only the Netherlands have had a widescreen release so far.
So to re-release a full-frame DVD in 2006 is shockingly bad form in my opinion.
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