Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->General: General Home Theater Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Pioneer unviels 400GB Blu-ray disc
Author Message
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorNewEnglander
Registered: 11/13/2003
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 1,911
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TechRadar
Quote:
Pioneer has gone all storage crazy on us by coming up with a Blu-ray disc that is capable of holding 400GB of information.

This disc uses 16 layers to hold all the information at 25GB per stack, compared to the dual layer 50GB discs that we see in Blockbuster but never rent because the normal DVD is, well, cheaper.

The process of manufacturing such a disc is difficult, as the layers used often want to all be heard at once, so interference is common.

But by using techniques from the DVD manufacturing process, Pioneer has apparently solved the problem.

Backwards

According to the Japanese company: "Since the optical specifications of the objective lens…are the same as those for the existing BD discs, it is possible to maintain compatibility between the new 16-layer optical disc and the BD discs."

So this means you can probably pop one of these big-boys into your newly purchased Blu-ray player and still access all the large space optical goodness when released.

Pioneer has promised more information on the new technology at the Symposium on Optical Memory and Optical Data Storage 2008, which sounds thrilling, on the 13 July.
Signature banned: Reason out of date...
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAscended_Saiyan
A Blu-ray crack fiend
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 1,127
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Of course, the only logical use for a 400GB disc is for data.  On the movie end of things, it's the equvialent of HD DVD coming up with a 51GB disc with only 30Mbps throughtput.  It doesn't help...except in professional and personal data storage (i.e. backing up hard drive, etc).

This would be amazing if the PS4 has a BD writer in it.  And, of course, it's amazing for the computer industry.
To err is human...
-----------
473 Blu-ray Titles
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote:
Of course, the only logical use for a 400GB disc is for data.  On the movie end of things, it's the equvialent of HD DVD coming up with a 51GB disc with only 30Mbps throughtput.  It doesn't help...except in professional and personal data storage (i.e. backing up hard drive, etc).

This would be amazing if the PS4 has a BD writer in it.  And, of course, it's amazing for the computer industry.


Based on today's resolutions and ignoring the rumors of 4000p resolutions in the sometime future.

Not to mention that these would be great for TV series!
Hal
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
Registered: March 14, 2007
United States Posts: 1,777
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Remember how early gen DVD players would puke on the layer change?  I'm trying to imagine 16 layer changes! 
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorNewEnglander
Registered: 11/13/2003
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 1,911
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Or a trilogy of movies on one disc.
Signature banned: Reason out of date...
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBad Father
Registered: July 23, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 4,596
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
A box set on one disc!!!  How would you profile that one  
My WebGenDVD online Collection
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting 8ballMax:
Quote:
A box set on one disc!!!  How would you profile that one  


Good question.

I'm hoping that v3.5 has the answer.
Hal
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
Registered: March 14, 2007
United States Posts: 1,777
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I wouldn't worry about it.  Studios have shown little inclination to actually utilize the full storage space available on any format...unless they're putting out a quadruple-dip budget release for the dump bins.
 Last edited: by mdnitoil
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAscended_Saiyan
A Blu-ray crack fiend
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 1,127
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting Ascended_Saiyan:
Quote:
Of course, the only logical use for a 400GB disc is for data.  On the movie end of things, it's the equvialent of HD DVD coming up with a 51GB disc with only 30Mbps throughtput.  It doesn't help...except in professional and personal data storage (i.e. backing up hard drive, etc).

This would be amazing if the PS4 has a BD writer in it.  And, of course, it's amazing for the computer industry.


Based on today's resolutions and ignoring the rumors of 4000p resolutions in the sometime future.

Not to mention that these would be great for TV series!

Nope.  You only get 48Mbps sustained throughput will the Blu-ray standard.  For higher resolutions (like 2160p and higher), you need MORE throughput.

TV series would benefit from 200GB BDs, but most likely not 400GB BDs.  How many TV series on BD have more than 4 - 50GB BDs?  I don't have any AFAIK.
To err is human...
-----------
473 Blu-ray Titles
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantstephan.klose
2k+ Blu Rays
Registered: June 27, 2007
Austria Posts: 2,049
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I am pretty happy with what I get on a Dual Layer BD these days. Until they come up with TV's with a much higher resolution I really see no practical use. Except maybe for the, mentioned by 8ball, use of putting an entire season on one Disc. Then again, how would they justify the high price if it's just one Disc?
Check out my Youtube channel under https://www.youtube.com/user/alittleolder
    Invelos Forums->General: General Home Theater Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next