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Porn actors and some way to separate them from a mainstream actor w/ same name w/o BY for neither?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
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I would like some sort of way to separate porn actors from mainstream actors when both share the same name.

There are a few cases where a porn actor will use the same name as a mainstream actors name I guess in an attempt to capitalize on the more famous name.

In either case because they share the same name this very likely can screw up CLT results since even the porn actors credits will appear along with the mainstream actors credits.


Perhaps when credits for an x-rated film is being done the program could automatically identify that this is not the same person as the more famous actor.

Or perhaps a checkbox could be added for porn actors and it would be checked when someone is doing an x-rated profile and when done the checkbox is hidden from view.


Any other ideas as to how to identify porn actors from mainstream actors when neither have a verifiable birth year?
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Something that would have to come into consideration is when a porn actor crosses over to mainstream. It is not always a different actor just because some movies are porn and some are mainstream. One (major) example of this would be Tracy Lords... she has done many mainstream movies after getting out of the porn industry.

So whatever needs to be done would need to be done on a case by case basis... not all porn actors such as a checkbox as you suggest.

I know Birth Year is not great and I wish we could move to something else... but since I don't have any suggestions I have to wait and see if someone else comes up with something that would work for all cast/crew.
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Wouldn't these all be stage names and therefore parsed as a single name? 

Although I guess it makes no difference to the CLT...
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Something that would have to come into consideration is when a porn actor crosses over to mainstream. It is not always a different actor just because some movies are porn and some are mainstream. One (major) example of this would be Tracy Lords... she has done many mainstream movies after getting out of the porn industry.

So whatever needs to be done would need to be done on a case by case basis... not all porn actors such as a checkbox as you suggest.

I know Birth Year is not great and I wish we could move to something else... but since I don't have any suggestions I have to wait and see if someone else comes up with something that would work for all cast/crew.



OK, perhaps a an automatic checkbox for all porn actors isn't good.

Perhaps an option to check a box for those that are porn actors with the same name of a mainstream actor.


Is there another Tracy Lords?
I don't think there is, so that wouldn't affect her.
Even if there was, the links to her mainstream roles wouldn't be affected. All that would be noted in a hidden manner is that she is/was the porn actress.
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Is there another Tracy Lords?


You would be surpriced how many ex/present porn stars also have roles in "normal" films, Jenna Jameson, Ron Jeremy... How do we classify Sylvester Stallone's Party at Kitty and Stud's, (The Italian Stallion, 1970)  Why do we even have to label then out? Should we also label Action stars, comedy actors etc.?
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I can't see this working.
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Agree with Kulju, shouldnt make a diffrence what genre it is.
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I guess some people don't understand the problem.

I'm only talking about porn actors that share the same name as a mainstream actor.

After doing many profiles and looking up CLT results there are cases where a few "Hidden" titles will show up. You can tell by the titles of the Hidden Titles that they are porn titles.

Here's one example.

Steve Cruz:
IMDB lists 2 actors with this name.
1 for The Blues Brothers
The other for Get Rich or Die Tryin

CLT results:
25 titles (100 profiles)

Out of that there is the following results:
20 Profiles in which Steve Cruz is listed as a cast member in porn titles.


I can't find a Birth Year for either of these three actors.

The problem occurs if some user has The Blues Brothers in their local database as well as some porn titles with this Steve Cruz guy.
Because no BY for either can be entered, both are linked.


I did a little test.
I downloaded one of these "Hidden Titles" and I clicked on Steve Cruz in the Blues Brothers profile and up came that Adult title.
So, both are linked.


This also just brought up something else.

I had the parental control in place and even though I had the Adult title hidden, when I clicked on the actors name in the profile the adult title also showed up.

Needless to say this very well could be a problem if certain people are around or children.


So another suggestion is that when the Parental Control is place that no adult titles would show up in the pop up window even if the person shares a common name of a mainstream cast/crew member.

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I guess some people don't understand the problem.

I'm only talking about porn actors that share the same name as a mainstream actor.

From what I've read I think everyone understands that. They are just pointing the issue is the same for any two actors sharing the same name. Just because in this case some of the movies involved are porn movies it doesn't and shouldn't change the way we differintiate between two like-named actors. Two Joe Smiths are two Joe Smiths, whether one of them does porn or not. Use the birth year to differentiate between the two. If you can't find a birth year again it is no different than not being able to find a birth year for non-porn actors... there is nothing we can do about it in that case.


You point about having parental controls not working with the name linking is a completely different matter and IMO is something that should be fixed by Invelos. Ken may not even be aware of it.
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CubbyUps,

Here is a simple work around for the two people with the same name.  Add a cast members for the porn flick and behind their name place "(ADULT)"  This will make a new entry and will make him completely separate from your mail stream actor.  As for the parental controls not working I would definately advise Ken.
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That is a workaround that can be done... but just keep in mind you wouldn't be able to contribute that name... it would have to be a local only solution.
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never mind 
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