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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 287 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can't find a definitive answer as to profile running time of bonus features.
Examples:
- bonus discs of tv-series with only bonus materials
- bonus discs of film box-sets with only bonus materials
Do we add the running time to the profile of the bonus disc?
I would say no, since on discs with movies/episodes we also don't add the length of the bonus material to the movie/episodes running time.
Maybe I overlooked it, but I can't find a definitive answer in the contribution rules.
Maybe the rules should be clearer, and point out that running time should be only from movie/episodes.
What do you guys (and girls) think? |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | On a 'mixed' disc, we don't count the time for bonus features. Even that is sometimes a grey area, for example if there is a bonus episode of the same series as the main epsiodes.
But for discs that onlly have bonus features, it makes little sense to me to remove the information, as there can be no confusion about what it is anyway. | | | | Hans |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 8,735 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote:
But for discs that onlly have bonus features, it makes little sense to me to remove the information, as there can be no confusion about what it is anyway. True, but keep in mind that only in very rare situations "discs that only have bonus features" actually get their own profile. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 287 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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But for discs that onlly have bonus features, it makes little sense to me to remove the information, as there can be no confusion about what it is anyway.
True, but keep in mind that only in very rare situations "discs that only have bonus features" actually get their own profile. I have a couple in my collection: movies: alien quadrilogy bonus disc (R2 NL) indiana jones box bonus disc (R2 NL) scream box bonus disc (R1 US) star wars trilogy bonus disc (R2 NL) tv series taken disc 6 (R2 Uk) stargate complete collection 4 bonus discs (R1 US) 24 season 5 disc 7 (R2 UK) 24 season 4 disc 7 (R2 UK) 24 season 6 disc 7 (R2 UK) Now, some om them have a running time of 0:00 but some don't. I am just wondering what is the correct way to go. |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | As far as I know, the counting of the running time of bonus features is not allowed by the rules,
but I am not 100% sure.
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting JeroenX: Quote:
I am just wondering what is the correct way to go. For the bonus features-only discs that actually can get their own profile, I'd probably put the combined running time in, yeah. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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I am just wondering what is the correct way to go.
For the bonus features-only discs that actually can get their own profile, I'd probably put the combined running time in, yeah. Makes sense to me. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't agree, Tim. I am not one of those who thinks that just because soemthing can be done it should. It is very clear that Runtime of Bonus material was not intended to be tracked. nOw personally Ijhope that Ken will give us the ability to track specifics on the Special Features which at that point, tracking Runtimes and so forth makes far more sense. But not now.
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I don't go looking for things that I can then ram down the Online because it's not covered technically. Strange: I've seen you do exactly that on multiple occasions (as always: facts and figures readily available upon request). Anyway, I don't see this as the same thing. No, we normally don't track the running time of special features. Agreed. But this is something else: this is about the rare occasions when a bonus disc gets it's own profile. The only thing such a profile, ehm, "profiles", is the content of that particular disc. ALL data in that profile only reflects bonus features - that's simply true for just about anything you add into the profile. So you're essentially suggesting to leave pretty much all fields for such a profile empty? |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,743 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with T!M on this one...for the bonus features-only discs that actually get their own profile. Not to be added to the overall box set, just listed for its own profile.  | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. | | | | Last edited: by mreeder50 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Tim: I disagree and I'll leave it at that, anything else i say would take us into a pissing contest and i am sick of those. But let's just leave it at I disagree with you, no need to go further.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
(...) The only thing such a profile, ehm, "profiles", is the content of that particular disc. ALL data in that profile only reflects bonus features - that's simply true for just about anything you add into the profile. So you're essentially suggesting to leave pretty much all fields for such a profile empty? Of course this run time would influence the total run time of your collection similar to the mandatory run time in box set profiles or disc and season level TV profiles. At least for the box set parent profiles there seems to be a relevant group in the community which would like them as empty as possible. As you may have heard by now, I'm not one of them. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting JeroenX:
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I am just wondering what is the correct way to go.
For the bonus features-only discs that actually can get their own profile, I'd probably put the combined running time in, yeah. I agree. I have to ask myself, "Self. What is the purpose of the running time field?" The answer is, to know how much time one needs to watch the feature on the disc, so it makes sense to me. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | I only want runtime on these discs if they are one feature. Like the extra Circuit City Disc for Halloween, it's 26 minutes of footage from a comic-con panel about the movie, nothing else. One feature like that is easy to add runtime to.
Now for somthing like Indiana Jones bonus disc, I don't want all the feature's runtimes added together for a disc runtime. I wouldn't be against listing the runtime of each segment localy (I'd have to care enough to start doing that, but could see it). Definitly wouldn't work with the Nigfhtmare on Elm Street Encylopedia either, you could spend hours in the maze without watching anything. For that, I'll just post a link to the cheat sheet site that tells what ttile and track everything on the disc is for quick easy access. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting T!M:
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Quoting JeroenX:
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I am just wondering what is the correct way to go.
For the bonus features-only discs that actually can get their own profile, I'd probably put the combined running time in, yeah.
I agree. I have to ask myself, "Self. What is the purpose of the running time field?" The answer is, to know how much time one needs to watch the feature on the disc, so it makes sense to me. Add me to this list as well. And for the same reason. I like know how much bonus material I have going in. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
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