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There shouldn't be any discussion about it in 5the here and now. Bottom line it'snot credit we currently deal with. Now about the future, I am open, just not now.

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3. "Developed by" Credit Determination.

Under the MBA, no specific rights attach to the "Developed by" credit. The writer who receives "Developed by" credit does not share in the Separated Rights. Consequently, it is incumbent upon the writer not only to negotiate to be proposed for the "Developed by" credit, but also to negotiate for any royalty or other available right which the parties agree will flow from the credit.

In the case of an original episodic series, a writer who has performed writing services on the program may be eligible for "Developed by" credit under the following circumstances:

    a. The writer is eligible for, but does not receive "Created by" credit on the series; or

    b. The writer receives "Teleplay by" credit on the pilot (but not "Story by" or "Written by" credit); or

    c. The writer has otherwise contributed to the "distinctiveness and viability" of the series.

The Company must agree to propose the writer for "Developed by" credit; neither a writer nor the WGA may independently request the credit if the Company does not propose it. Consequently, it is up to the writer to negotiate with the Company to be proposed for "Developed by" credit in the event the writer does not receive "Created by" credit.

Once the Company has agreed to propose a writer for "Developed by" credit on an original episodic series, it is subject to the automatic arbitration provisions of the MBA.20 Only the writer(s) entitled to "Created by" credit and the writer(s) proposed for "Developed by" credit participate in the "Developed by" arbitration.

The rules for determination of the "Developed by" credit are set forth in the Separation of Rights Manual. Three independent arbiters are asked to review and compare the relevant literary material to determine whether the writer proposed for "Developed by" credit has "contributed significantly to the series' distinctiveness and viability, [though] not enough to warrant a 'Created by' credit." The "Developed by" credit should only be granted "when the use of a 'Created by' credit alone would substantially misrepresent the writer(s) responsible for the series' distinctiveness or viability."

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No, it's not, James. Only one thing is required. Do we or do we NOT include Developed By. The answer to that question is simply not at this time. There is no other answer and the WG is completely irrelevant. IF Ken decides to add Developed By, primarily a Television credit, then we can list it and the WG has nothing to do with it. I don't see that including anything about this from them brings anything to the table at all, UNLESS perhaps Ken wants it for some reason.

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Were I ken,I would simply decide to addit or not and the WG would be irrelevant, and by the way I would add it. Not based on the WG nor anything else, I see it is as a cousin of Created By and an important piece of data for us to capture. That simple, land that wasreached without any outside definitions by anyone, simple an evaluation of what i believe to be the value of the data and how best to attribute it in profiler, and that would be to add a developed by Role and not asa subset of Created By or any other role. it's a very simple process to me, James.<shrugs> and confused at what point you think you are trying to make.