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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Didn't realise there had been a change to this rule and that Original Title is not only taken from Opening credits Quote:
For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits. For titles released outside their country of origin, use the original release title. So as this is a American film but a UK release can anyone tell me what the American title is? "Santa Claus" ( opening credits) or Santa Claus the Movie ("the Movie" is not an episode descriptor) or Santa Claus: The Movie | | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | It appears simply as Santa Claus on the old R1 DVD (013131-373899). Screenshot here. The opening appears identical to the video link you posted above. Interesting that you should mention this film. There is currently a contribution changing the Crew to mirror the UK Blu-ray profile (which is probably just incorrect to begin with), as much of it is quite different in the actual film credits on the old R1 DVD from Anchor Bay. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,735 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
So as this is a American film Is it? Many sources (IMDb, Wikipedia,...) list this as a "British/American" film. Who decides that it's primarily American? Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
There is currently a contribution changing the Crew to mirror the UK Blu-ray profile FYI: one of the main problems - amongst others, that is - with that UK Blu-ray profile is that it has the wrong David Newman listed in it. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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So as this is a American film
Is it? Many sources (IMDb, Wikipedia,...) list this as a "British/American" film. Who decides that it's primarily American? Trust you to complicate it even more   |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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There is currently a contribution changing the Crew to mirror the UK Blu-ray profile
FYI: one of the main problems - amongst others, that is - with that UK Blu-ray profile is that it has the wrong David Newman listed in it. Yes, that's one of the reasons why I voted No to the contribution I mentioned. It sounds like the entire UK profile is currently far from accurate, and shouldn't be used simply as a copy template for other region profiles of Santa Claus. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
Quoting T!M:
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Quoting Katatonia:
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There is currently a contribution changing the Crew to mirror the UK Blu-ray profile
FYI: one of the main problems - amongst others, that is - with that UK Blu-ray profile is that it has the wrong David Newman listed in it.
Yes, that's one of the reasons why I voted No to the contribution I mentioned. It sounds like the entire UK profile is currently far from accurate, and shouldn't be used simply as a copy template for other region profiles of Santa Claus. Sounds like the same person has contributed to the Blu-ray i have? (2 Blu's released in UK 1 with DVD and 1 without) are the group roles not done properly and a incorrect Group End divider at the end of the cast list? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
Sounds like the same person has contributed to the Blu-ray i have? (2 Blu's released in UK 1 with DVD and 1 without) are the group roles not done properly and a incorrect Group End divider at the end of the cast list? Yes, that was another error which I noticed. An End Divider was added to the very end of the Actors, and the rules state not to. I don't know if it's the same person though, since it's simply being copied (per their contribution notes) from the UK Blu-ray profile. | | | | Corey | | | | Last edited: by Katatonia |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Had a look at your's after i posted and it is the same person (who is contributing to all versions of this film in the database so the wrong birth year is being spread to all), weirdly though he is adding Santa Claus as the OT in your profile (and others) but removing it from mine  | | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
Had a look at your's after i posted and it is the same person (who is contributing to all versions of this film in the database so the wrong birth year is being spread to all), weirdly though he is adding Santa Claus as the OT in your profile (and others) but removing it from mine We have another Tim at work?  It's as UK as Superman was, same producers, both were filmed at Pinewood Studios but they were both American productions. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
We have another Tim at work? Really Skip? An unwarranted personal attack? From you? What a surprise...  |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ninehours: Quote:
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For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits. For titles released outside their country of origin, use the original release title.
So as this is a American film but a UK release can anyone tell me what the American title is? FWIW I tend to interpret that Rule (yes, I know...dangerous) as "For titles released outside their country of origin which speaks a different language" so since UK and America both speak English (with regional differences) I'd stick to Title = from cover, Original Title = from credits. I'd apply the same to Australian movies/releases too. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't see how it can be interpreted that way as 'language' is never mentioned, only country of origin...not that I like the current wording any better as it isn't uncommon for a studio in one country to use a production company from another. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have to agree... I don't see how the rule can be interpreted that way either. | | | | Pete |
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