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Pirates of the Caribbean upc problem
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormajdad
Registered: June 7, 2007
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Hi everybody;
my problem is, I just bought the Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl 2-disc blu-ray with a DVD disc as a combo pack all three disc in same case with a slip cover under UPC 786936812541.  When I was making my contribution I found the same UPC but with a different cover only 2-disc blu-ray and no slip cover. I made my changes and updated the covers only to find out that it was a child of upc 786936812343 Pirates of the Caribbean: 7-Disc Trilogy Collection. My questions are why does 2 different versions of the same movie one a child with only 2-disc and one a combo have the same upc. and which one should be using the upc to be added to the database. I know the boxset child was first in the database but shouldn't the combo use the upc and the children use the disc id????  This problem is true for all three Pirates of the Caribbean movies that was just released.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Quoting majdad:
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but shouldn't the combo use the upc and the children use the disc id????

Not necessarily.
If the content of the boxset has a UPC for each child package then we are supposed to use them.
In addition these UPCs indicate that the boxset content was (or is) sold separately too.

So be careful with profile updates and do not try to change valid data.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormajdad
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The 2 are not the same, they have different cover scans the child shows 2-disc blu-ray and the serperate ones shows 2-disc blu-ray + DVD on the back the child shows 2-Disc Blu-ray and the combo shows 3-disc combo pack. they are 2 different versions with the same upc.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrusty640
Registered: July 7, 2007
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Being they got in as  childs for upc 786936812343 Pirates of the Caribbean: 7-Disc Trilogy Collection  first

They need  to stay (the first in rule applies I think). So for the people with three disc they'll need to keep the dvd child, media type, edition, slip cover, and spr local .


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMikaLove
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It's not true that the box set came "first". The box set came on the same day as the individual titles were for sale. March 1st.
The only thing that was "first" is that it was entered in the database in a specific order, which is beside the point.

One crucial thing I think we have to consider is, was it per the rules to remove the sticker that says "Not for individual sale"?
Practically, these box set discs don't have UPC's. I think they were reserved for the individual releases.
So the UPC's for the box set discs are invalid, the moment we remove the stickers.
The purpose of the stickers was to remove the UPC's, I'd think.
I mean, it is still not OK to sell these titles individually, and that's what it's all about.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantOscarWRG
Registered: March 30, 2007
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Maybe the bonus DVD is for a limited time, and in a while this UPC code will be only for Blu-Ray without the DVD. And as per rules the cover scans needs to be slipcover when is present, and this is the case, and as MilaLove said

Quoting MikaLove:
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It's not true that the box set came "first". The box set came on the same day as the individual titles were for sale. March 1st.
The only thing that was "first" is that it was entered in the database in a specific order, which is beside the point.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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So let me get this straight...

The argument against having the original scanned covers in the DB, is..

It is not the way they were presented for sale.  By Walt Disney Home Entertainment/Buena Vista Distribution covering up the UPC labels with "Not intended for individual Sale", it invalidates the UPC entry for the individual releases within the box set, and should therefore be entered via disc profile, or the individual profiler keeping it local.

While, there might be an argument to this, considering WDSHE may be considering a re-release of the UPC, without the DVD included, at a later date. I really in the end, cannot justify that argument. 

Even though people that have the 2bd+DVD set may not like it.  it is still a valid release for that UPC.

We cannot start picking and choosing based upon a persons personal choice, in the current program environment we have.  This is one of the reasons that we can keep our own images in our local (I have many images that don't match the online profile).

Until the program changes, there just isn't any way of doing it, that will make everybody happy (there was a discussion about "The Shadow", how it should be the current DVD packaging instead of the jewel case that it originally came in).  The rules state, first release image, and if 2 or more (think "Sin City") come out at the same time, then the first in gets priority.  It is the way it must be.

Sorry, the way I see it.  And just so people know, I have the 2BD+DVD releases

Charlie
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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Quoting MikaLove:
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It's not true that the box set came "first". The box set came on the same day as the individual titles were for sale. March 1st.
The only thing that was "first" is that it was entered in the database in a specific order, which is beside the point.

One crucial thing I think we have to consider is, was it per the rules to remove the sticker that says "Not for individual sale"?
Practically, these box set discs don't have UPC's. I think they were reserved for the individual releases.
So the UPC's for the box set discs are invalid, the moment we remove the stickers.
The purpose of the stickers was to remove the UPC's, I'd think.
I mean, it is still not OK to sell these titles individually, and that's what it's all about.


He is not saying the Box Set Came first.  He said it got into the DB first...
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