Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next
Original title question: "Sombras en una batalla"
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantlasitter
Registered: May 30, 2008
Posts: 445
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I'm working on updating this and the current entry has, in the DVD title field:

"Sombras en una batalla"

The original title is blank.

The translated title "SHADOWS IN BATTLE" appears on the DVD cover, in small type under this.

Per the rules (which I'm trying to parse:

"The Original Title field serves two general purposes, but in both cases allows for the tracking of the original feature title. For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits. For titles released outside their country of origin, use the original release title."

I'm pretty sure that something should go in the original title field, but don't know if that should be "Sombras en una batalla", in which case do I change the DVD to "Shadows in Battle", or what?

And I'm still confused about the example of the German film produced in the US.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
Strength Through Unity
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
Germany Posts: 6,730
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
If you are talking about this one it is a Spanish movie. So Sombras en una batalla as original title seems about correct to me.

If in doubt take the title as printed in the copyright notice of the credits as original title.

In your case the correct variant would be:

DVD-title: Shadows in Battle
Original Title: Sombras en una batalla

And before someone asks, this is strictly applying this rule (and assuming that the locality of the DVD is USA):
Quote:
If the title appears in multiple languages, use the title that matches the language of the locality and do not include an alternate title ( for instance in another language).
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


Registrant since 05/22/2003
 Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantlasitter
Registered: May 30, 2008
Posts: 445
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Silence_of_Lambs:
Quote:
If you are talking about this one it is a Spanish movie. So Sombras en una batalla as original title seems about correct to me.


That's the one I'm working on.  "Sombras en una batalla" is currently the DVD Title, with no original title.

"If the title appears in multiple languages, use the title that matches the language of the locality and do not include an alternate title ( for instance in another language)."

So does this mean "Shadows in Battle" never makes it into the DVD title or original title field?

Still confused.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
Strength Through Unity
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
Germany Posts: 6,730
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting lasitter:
Quote:

So does this mean "Shadows in Battle" never makes it into the DVD title or original title field?


It will never make it into the "Original Title"-field, because it doesn't belong there.

It belongs into the "DVD Title"-field if it is written on the cover as only title OR as in your case we have both titles on the cover, the "Original Title" and the "Localized Title". In this case the contribution rules tell us to use only the "Localized Title"  as "DVD Title".
No need to get confused.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


Registrant since 05/22/2003
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I believe Silence is spot on with his rule interpretation.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
 Last edited: by TheMadMartian
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantlasitter
Registered: May 30, 2008
Posts: 445
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Duh.

So "Shadows in Battle" goes into the

a) DVD title field

b) Original title

c) Neither?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Silence_of_Lambs:
Quote:
In your case the correct variant would be:

DVD-title: Shadows in Battle
Original Title: Sombras en una batalla

And before someone asks, this is strictly applying this rule (and assuming that the locality of the DVD is USA):
Quote:
If the title appears in multiple languages, use the title that matches the language of the locality and do not include an alternate title ( for instance in another language).
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantlasitter
Registered: May 30, 2008
Posts: 445
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
And before someone asks, this is strictly applying this rule (and assuming that the locality of the DVD is USA):
I've never considered the locality before, but after some searching I now understand that this is a function of where you purchased the DVD.

So unless I was buying DVDs from Amazon in the UK (or similar), my locality should always be the USA?

This is a completely separate thing from the Region code of the DVD?
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,201
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting lasitter:
Quote:
I've never considered the locality before, but after some searching I now understand that this is a function of where you purchased the DVD.

So unless I was buying DVDs from Amazon in the UK (or similar), my locality should always be the USA?

Unless it is an import, yes, your locality will probably be the  US.
Quote:
This is a completely separate thing from the Region code of the DVD?

Yes.  Simply put, locality is where it is supposed to be sold and Region Code is where it can be played.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1  Previous   Next