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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorapltm
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Just a small question to see if I got this right.

I have a television series box set consisting of a slip case containing two digipaks holding the discs.
Am I right in thinking that the case type for the parent profile should be slip case (which it is now) and for all child profiles the case type should be digipak?

I want to be sure before I change them all, there are 17 child profiles...
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Since you said there is 2 digipaks... yes it would be slip case.
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As a guideline:
If the outer case (for not using the word Slip-Case) is containg only 1 inner case it's "Package Type of the inner case + Slip-Cover"

If the outer case is containing 2 or more inner cases it's "Slip-Case"

This distinction still seems very strange to me since both terms describe basically identical outer cases.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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I may have not made myself clear enough: I was particularly concerned with the child profiles.

I'm fairly certain that slip case for the parent is correct, just was in doubt about the child profiles.
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Child profiles would be digipak.
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For a TV-series, the parent proifle is supposed to be complete and stand-alone.
I would label the parent digipak(s) with slip-cover. How else would you know what the DVDs are actually packaged in?

For movies box sets, the parent profile is just an empty shell, and slip case fits the bill nicely.
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Quoting Staid S Barr:
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For a TV-series, the parent proifle is supposed to be complete and stand-alone.
I would label the parent digipak(s) with slip-cover. How else would you know what the DVDs are actually packaged in?

For movies box sets, the parent profile is just an empty shell, and slip case fits the bill nicely.


Unless it's a complete series package consisting of multiple season, in which case i think it should be empty, or am i incorrect here?

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For a box with all seasons, I would leave the parent profile empty too.

But for a set with e.g. Seasons 1 and 2, where Season 1 is a short introductory one, I would treat that as the other Seasons. I have several examples of those.
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Quoting Staid S Barr:
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For a TV-series, the parent proifle is supposed to be complete and stand-alone.
I would label the parent digipak(s) with slip-cover. How else would you know what the DVDs are actually packaged in?

For movies box sets, the parent profile is just an empty shell, and slip case fits the bill nicely.


This would go against Ken's clarification of the matter. He made no exception for TV series compared to Movie boxsets... just said if the package holds more then one case it is a slip case... if it is a single case it is that case with slip cover checked.

I have many TV series sets that has more then one case... and on them the parent profile is slip cover per Ken's clarification.
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Quoting Staid S Barr:
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For a TV-series, the parent proifle is supposed to be complete and stand-alone. [...]
For movies box sets, the parent profile is just an empty shell, and slip case fits the bill nicely.

The TV Series Part of the Cotribution Rules say otherwise:
"Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile."
Now the only pitfall is the "can be applied" ... 

cya, Mithi
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Now the only pitfall is the "can be applied" ... 

cya, Mithi


I think that we Germans or I should say we who have German as our first language read the word "can" alittle different. I am sure "can be applied" is meant to say that this is the way to do it. I think in German it's more like an option but in English here it's simple means that how you do it. It's hard to explain. Sorry guys.
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I completely disagree that "but in English here it's simple means that how you do it."

Can means it is an option. Can be applied in no way means it has to be done that way.
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I completely disagree that "but in English here it's simple means that how you do it."

Can means it is an option. Can be applied in no way means it has to be done that way.


That's why I said it's hard to explain. I kind of expected this type of reaction. It's very hard to explain that to someone who doesn't speak German. I agree Pete to what you said but when you take the sentence: "Box set rules can be applied here" that means you use the box set rules in this case, there isn't really another option. Or what do you think? In German I feel the word can is always an option if you translate it directly but as I wrote before that Ken's Rule doesn't feel or sound like an option to me.
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Quoting Mithi:

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The TV Series Part of the Cotribution Rules say otherwise:
"Note: In rare cases where multiple Complete TV Series are packaged together, the Box-set rules can be applied, treating each series like a single film - applying the above rules for it’s individual profile."
Now the only pitfall is the "can be applied" ... 

cya, Mithi


This section of the Rules has nothing to do with what to enter for the case type for either the parent or the child profiles.  It is simply saying that the individual series (seasons) within this type of release can be profiled as children of the parent boxset.
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I read it as it is written... by what the words means. Reading the TV series rules as a whole... I read it to say when it comes to child profiles for TV series we have options can make it as seasons or can make it per disc.

Going by what Ken said HERE... it seems he expects us to make all child profiles per disc... not per Season.

Quoting Ken Cole:
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Ken,

I do have one question that hopefully you can advise us on.

We have instances where there is a conflict between using the disc ID of the first disc in a single season TV season for the "child profile" just for the first disc in that season, and that same disc ID is needed to profile the entire season when that season is a child of a "Complete Series" of a TV show.

Can you provide some guidance on this please?


My initial thought is that in either case, disc-level profiles should have content only from that disc.  How often does this occur?  Since we don't have grandchild profiles at the moment, how do you enter them currently.


It is his initial thoughts on the subject. And as far as I can find his last statement on the subject.
Pete
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