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Impossible to contribute EAN number larges than 13 char
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDVDchrist
Registered: October 3, 2014
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I have a series of films from a collection bundle (magazine + film), they were numbered all with the same standard EAN 13 number (5420022905803) but beside the bar code two extra digits were added to make the difference for each of these films, thus being the first one 542002290580301 and the last one 542002290580315.  Despite the warning by DVD Profiler, I was able to enter them in my personal collection.  However if I now want to contribute them, it is not possible and I get the message :

Unable to contribute this profile

DVD Profiler is unable to validate the EAN.  Please verify the EAN and ensure you have entered the entire code.

How can I still contribute or change the EAN that I have different films under a specific number, not using the disc ID because this is often linked to an existing EAN code which is not the same as this EAN.

Thanks for your support
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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EAN is by definition 13 digits long
UPC has 12 digits

Regarding your problem:
Magazin DVDs should be contributed by Disc-ID.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMithi
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Quoting DVDchrist:
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How can I still contribute or change the EAN that I have different films under a specific number, not using the disc ID because this is often linked to an existing EAN code which is not the same as this EAN.

A little clarification on that part: When you put in a Disc to add per Disc-ID Profiler shows you either a Disc-ID-based profile or if that is not available a UPC/EAN-based profile has the Disc-ID in the Disc-Info part of the profile, those are two different beasts.
(see ID)

Now what you could do is: load the UPC/EAN-profile that is offered, DVD -> Change UPC -> Use disc ID from inserted disc. Congratulations, you have cloned a profile! See this checklist to see what you most likely have to change to make the profile contributable. And don't forget to copy your personal informations from the long-UPC-profile over.


cya, Mithi

PS (from memory, I unfortunately have no DVD-ROM at the moment)
Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGridlock Joe
Registered: March 13, 2007
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(deleted after I reread the problem - Lewis_Prothero has the solution)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDVDchrist
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To Lewis_Prothero -  wrote :

How can I still contribute or change the EAN that I have different films under a specific number, not using the disc ID because this is often linked to an existing EAN code which is not the same as this EAN.

Added the DVD via the disc ID would lead that another DVD is detected and added.  However this is even not correct, since the covers are different, but also the content is even different. 
e.g. a disc is detected a a two disc version or special edition with bonus features and for my version this is not the case.

I really want to have my version registered and I'm sure that there are multiple users who have the same problem.  I find lots of magazine DVD of existing films in the DVD Profiler database.  This would be a great offer for others to benefit from it as well.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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I think you misunderstood.
"Adding by Disc-ID" means, as explained by Mithi, to replace EAN by Disc-ID.
Since Magazine DVDs usually are special releases this (under normal circumstances) leads to a unique identifier for this specific release.

Trying to add by Magazine's EAN + release code (last 2 digits, which usually indicate the calendar week) would actually lead to the problem you want to avoid, at least if the magazine doesn't vanish after year one.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDVDchrist
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Dear Lewis_Prothero, no I didn't misunderstand you.  I tried to add the DVD via the Disc Id option, but then automatically another DVD within the database is recognized, often the wrong one, like I already specified (a special edition, wrong cover, ...)
The magazine seem to have used the same id as a normal release, thus no special specific edition.
So this option is not valid neither.
The only thing I can do is add it do the database with the disc id, but then I loose the specific covers from the magazine and on top I have "faulty" information.
I'm also using DVD Profiler on my Ipad and now I don't see any cover for these DVD's, which is a pity of course.
The magazine itself is a very steady one on the market and often brings us DVD sets of famous movies offered at a nice price.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
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It sounds like all you need to do is uncheck the option "Download from Invelos"... the special edition you speak of is most likely in there by UPC/EAN... but it shows up when you insert the disc to find it for download because not everyone downloads by UPC/EAN... they just insert disc to find what they bought.

If you uncheck the option "Download from Invelos" it will allow you to add a profile by disc ID without messing up the UPC/EAN profile... it will create another profile instead.
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You might want to read this thread: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=764015.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Dear Lewis_Prothero, no I didn't misunderstand you.  I tried to add the DVD via the Disc Id option, but then automatically another DVD within the database is recognized, often the wrong one, like I already specified (a special edition, wrong cover, ...).


And that's exactly where you misunderstood me.
What you are talking about is  trying to add by searching the Disc-ID (Which, of course, will list all titles that share the same Disc-ID).
What I was talking about about is to use the search result as basis and then unflagging "Download from Invelos" (as suggested by Addicted2DVD), which as a result will lead to a new (and blank) profile in your local database. This profile then would use the Disc-ID (and not an EAN) as identifier.

The important difference is that Disc-IDs can show up in two sections of a profile
1) as package content (Discs and/or Boxset Content)
2) as identifier (replaces EAN or Manual ID)

Trying to add a title by Disc-ID will search the database for matching results in both data-fields, but this doesn't necessarily mean that the Disc-ID is already in use as identifier.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDVDchrist
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Hello everyone, even with unflagging this Download from Invelos it isn't working if the Disc-ID is already used as an identifier by someone else.  Like I said when I then want to contribute my version with the different cover, it will recognize the other registrated version (with different data, diferent cover, ...)
I guess the DVD sold together with the magazine (with a special cover) internally uses the same Disc (and therefore also the same Disc ID) as the one used in the normal packaged DVD under a normal EAN code.
So sorry guys, I'm still stuc with the same problem.

Thanks dee1959jay, but I already saw that thread.  That's why I tried the solution with adding the 2 extra digits from the EAN code on the box (like the magazine does to make the difference between the various versions of the same EAN code for the whole set).  By the way it is not a BOX set, but separate DVD (even thinpacks, so no regular Keep case).
The only hope I have is that another qualifier / identifier will be used to handle such cases.  It will also take away the frustration we have that the companies create the same EAN, same Disc ID, but different covers.

Something to add on a whishlist for Xmas as an improvement for the excellent software program that we all use
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
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Right. In that case, all you can do for now is modify the data in your local database to match what you actually have, lock them, and add your own cover scans and lock those too. As I remarked in the other thread, the modified data will show up in your on-line collection, but not your cover scans, as those are always drawn from the central database.

I'm completely with you in wishing for more profile identifiers!
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